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Old 02-21-2004, 10:54 PM
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Gay people want to be able to marry to show they are part of average normal society, ie they would be accepted more by others.

I disagree as a christian with Gay marriage.
So you mean that you don't think that guy people are part of the average normal society? Or are you only against the gay marriage?

I'm not asking this to offend you, everyone may have his/her own opinion. I am just curious.
Gay people are the ones that think they are not part of normal society. I have quite a few gay friends. Do I find gay peoples behaviour normal to me , no is the answer if it was normal to me then I would be Gay.

My gay friends understand my beliefs on their chosen sexuality, they respect it, I dont agree with their beliefs but I respectfully disagree. Most of them agree with me and the statement that being Gay is not a part of christian life or agreed with in the bible. We have had interesting long discussions on this subject , and get the bible out and review what is written.

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Old 02-21-2004, 11:06 PM
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Marriage is not just a love symbol, it also implies things that not married couples can't have (reduced taxes, succession rights, etc...). At least that's how it is in France and Canada, and I guess in most places.
They're are no reasons why gay couples could not have the right to have access to such advantages just because they are gay.

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Old 02-22-2004, 01:21 AM
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This is more arguing that there should a complete upheavel of marriage & it should be separated from religion (which is what it was originally there for) completely. But then who will be qualified to marry two people?? The majority of the marriage rights would have to be changed as they celebrate christianity. Only then can you start arguing that anyone, regardless of faith can be married.
Marriage here is complete separated from religion. A preacher here can't marry people legally, you have to go to the registry office at your town. If you marry in a church is something you add for your own pleasure but the marriage in the church means legally nothing.
same here in Austria so he should know that religion has nothing to do with marriage.
Many people here are really getting angry to him, especially cause he`s for death penalty and now even more, they consider renaming a stadium in Graz (his hometown) thats named after him, he's a total republican idiot
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Old 02-22-2004, 01:42 AM
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The thing is how many straight couples who get married are actually religous?? Most do it to make a commitment to each other in front of their family and friends, thats all gay people want to do.

Also, if were going by the bible, shouldnt marriages between people who have been married before also be illegal??? Afterall they have made vows and already broken them. If you go through the bible you will find many contradictions, not allowing gay people to marry is just hypocritical.
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I saw this on another board.

12 Reason why Gays shouldn't be allowed to marry.

1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control.

2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people can't legally get married because the world needs more children.

3. Obviously, gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if Gay marriage is allowed, since Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.

5. Heterosexual marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are property, blacks can't marry whites, and divorce is illegal.

6. Gay marriage should be decided by people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of the minorities.

7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

10. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.

11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to things like cars or longer lifespan.

12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "separate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages for gays and lesbians will.
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I saw this on another board.

12 Reason why Gays shouldn't be allowed to marry.

1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control.

2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people can't legally get married because the world needs more children.

3. Obviously, gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if Gay marriage is allowed, since Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.

5. Heterosexual marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are property, blacks can't marry whites, and divorce is illegal.

6. Gay marriage should be decided by people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of the minorities.

7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

10. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.

11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to things like cars or longer lifespan.

12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "separate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages for gays and lesbians will.
which messege board was that??? this guy /girl is crazy..who the **** said gay maqrried people will produce gay babies??? if that was happening years ago then how can gays exist.or do this ****er has an excuse about some gays were here long time ago....the statment makes no sense..

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7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
hahahahahahhahahha..check out the last sentence
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Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
if i hate pizza then in any dish ,any hotel if all others are eating it...doesn"t make me think let"s eat pizza coz it doesn"t taste good to me...& i have another item to eat...this has no sense in it...hanging around tall people will make u tall????? okkk anybody got gun?? just shut up.....
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I saw this on another board.

12 Reason why Gays shouldn't be allowed to marry.

1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control.

2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people can't legally get married because the world needs more children.

3. Obviously, gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if Gay marriage is allowed, since Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.

5. Heterosexual marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are property, blacks can't marry whites, and divorce is illegal.

6. Gay marriage should be decided by people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of the minorities.

7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

10. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.

11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to things like cars or longer lifespan.

12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "separate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages for gays and lesbians will.
which messege board was that??? this guy /girl is crazy..who the **** said gay maqrried people will produce gay babies??? if that was happening years ago then how can gays exist.or do this **** has an excuse about some gays were here long time ago....the statment makes no sense..

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7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
hahahahahahhahahha..check out the last sentence
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Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
if i hate pizza then in any dish ,any hotel if all others are eating it...doesn"t make me think let"s eat pizza coz it doesn"t taste good to me...& i have another item to eat...this has no sense in it...hanging around tall people will make u tall????? okkk anybody got gun?? just shut up.....
The person who made this list was being sarcastic, for example...since Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.
It's actually quite funny, when you think about it. I wish hanging around tall people would make you tall. But if that were the case, i wouldn't be so dang short.
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Old 02-22-2004, 12:43 PM
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I guess there will always be discussions and different opinions about gay-ness. It's a neverending discussion. I think everyone has to respect each others opinions, just like Dawn. She doesn't approve gayness but she tolerates it. I think that's the right way.
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