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Old 05-01-2005, 01:03 AM
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But when is arrogance really arrogance? It's such a subjective thing - some people really do know more than others.
it isn't subjective at all (at least not all that much).

Knowing more than others, does not make one arrogant.

To look down on others that might not know as much --- that is arrogance. Or to constantly 'show off' ones knowledge -- that is arrogance and rather annoying.

The mere fact of knowing more and answering peoples questions does not constitute arrogance.

Or, like my coworker who looks down on people that aren't as 'beautiful' as he is --- though seriously he isn't all that good looking at all -- but he thinks he is.

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But when is arrogance really arrogance? It's such a subjective thing - some people really do know more than others.
it isn't subjective at all (at least not all that much).

Knowing more than others, does not make one arrogant.

To look down on others that might not know as much --- that is arrogance. Or to constantly 'show off' ones knowledge -- that is arrogance and rather annoying.

The mere fact of knowing more and answering peoples questions does not constitute arrogance.

Or, like my coworker who looks down on people that aren't as 'beautiful' as he is --- though seriously he isn't all that good looking at all -- but he thinks he is.

Yes and yes lol

And do people realy need argue till the death to prove other person is stupid or doesn't know much as them??. Why we need to point out or try to prove how much mistake other people when infact we ourself filled with faults... It remind of this lady who comes in out trasport, who keep on insulting others and try to prove how others are wrong and she is so right, when infact she not all bright and one of the most annoying persons u can come across ....

Question is do we really need to prove or show off how much we know ?. For me wise person is the one who always humble himself and never try to show how brilliant or how much he/she knows about things.... It's should always his work show his knowledge rather then his word....
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Knowing more than others, does not make one arrogant.

To look down on others that might not know as much --- that is arrogance. Or to constantly 'show off' ones knowledge -- that is arrogance and rather annoying.

The mere fact of knowing more and answering peoples questions does not constitute arrogance.
But how do we know if that's arrogance? I'm sure the people who actually know more than others, don't see themselves as arrogant. On the other hand, I do see a lot of people who know less than some others, stating that these others are arrogant. Not because they actually know they're arrogant, but just out of some sort of insecurity about their own abilities.
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And do people realy need argue till the death to prove other person is stupid or doesn't know much as them??. Why we need to point out or try to prove how much mistake other people when infact we ourself filled with faults... It remind of this lady who comes in out trasport, who keep on insulting others and try to prove how others are wrong and she is so right, when infact she not all bright and one of the most annoying persons u can come across ....
What has proving that another person is stupid got to do with arrogance and wisdom? People often hate it when they're corrected. They know they don't have all the knowledge, are corrected and get upset because they were wrong and someone with obviously more knowledges corrects them. The lady you're describing could indeed be annoying as hell, but she could have the knowledge others don't have. Two different things.

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Question is do we really need to prove or show off how much we know ?. For me wise person is the one who always humble himself and never try to show how brilliant or how much he/she knows about things.... It's should always his work show his knowledge rather then his word....
Who is talking about showing off? When you're talking about the stuff you know a lot about, are known for that, you're not showing off, but just using your knowledge to inform other people. Also, when you know a lot of stuff about a subject, it's often a subject of your interest, and you like to talk about your interests. People often join the discussion and again get upset when they're told they're wrong, and blame the person for "not appreciating their opinion" when their opinion is often based upon the wrong facts.

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If someone is smarter than me and they "flaunt" it then that doesn't bother me. I won't get jealous, anyone can learn just about anything so it's only your own fault if you don't know something.

The type of arrogance I don't like is when people think they are better than you because they have more money or such trivial things. I'm not referring to not liking the person because they have better things or more money than I do or even if they flaunt it, but often the way they think that they are somehow better than you.
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But how do you know for sure that they actually think they're better?
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Arrogance is really NOT COOL .. to be full of oneself is one of the most worst thing after cruelty and hypocresy and and most of the time what you are full of is very shallow ....THOUGH most of the time arrogant ppl have a very heavy complex of inferiority that push them to act the opposite waylike having a complex odf superiority ... it's a very common attitude the more self centered and arrogant you are the less self secured and happy you are ... all this is a strategy to impress others and to hide oneself behind a mask ..



PS on the net arrogance is extremely common IRL way less because that require to be a very good performer ... arrogance is a performance most of the time ... to show off one self with good or bad reasons
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I'm thinking here of rich people who belong to private clubs and snub people based on their social status, they look down their nose at you, just their general behaviour.

If I where rich I wouldn't behave differently towards others and would not associate with those that did.
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Arrogance is not necesseraly about money .. it's more about feeling Intouchable/unreachable ...
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I am completely with Maria on this one.

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Who is talking about showing off? When you're talking about the stuff you know a lot about, are known for that, you're not showing off, but just using your knowledge to inform other people.
It is about HOW you (not literally) use your knowledge. The HOW is what makes other people perceive it as arrogant, or not.
Knowing more isn't arrogant, showing off with it is.

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People often join the discussion and again get upset when they're told they're wrong, and blame the person for "not appreciating their opinion" when their opinion is often based upon the wrong facts.
What are wrong facts?
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