Arrogance

*ºÇåptäîn¤Çrä§hº* · #31 05-01-2005, 02:19 AM

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But when is it showing off and when isn't it?

Of course, how someone perceives it is subjective.

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If you're insecure about some things, I'm sure you would think way sooner that someone's showing off when this person's just trying to share his knowledge.

Might be. I guess I can't describe it any better than with what I already said. It's about the HOW. Do you get the impression that someone just wants to help you and treats you equally. Or do you get the impression "let me tell you the only, my truth for you're a loser knowing shit".

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Then again: is showing off your knowledge really *that* bad? I really can think of worse habits, worse characteristics than that.

I gave my opinion about this in my previous post. But let me put it this way. I have less interest to find out whether someone is honest or loyal when he/she appears arrogant to me in the first place.

allmike · #32 05-01-2005, 02:21 AM

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Aloha !

What has proving that another person is stupid got to do with arrogance and wisdom? People often hate it when they're corrected. They know they don't have all the knowledge, are corrected and get upset because they were wrong and someone with obviously more knowledges corrects them. The lady you're describing could indeed be annoying as hell, but she could have the knowledge others don't have. Two different things.

Its not about correcting others, its about thinking he/she is always right and need to correct other endlessly, where infact he/she not all right... And even if ur right at time, why do u we have to go great legnth to prove others wrong or correct them...?. And this lady all she got is big mouth and thats all and the some of the things she complain about others actually she only has it or worst then that, so its really just stupid....(good God i got walkman to listen to lol)

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Who is talking about showing off? When you're talking about the stuff you know a lot about, are known for that, you're not showing off, but just using your knowledge to inform other people. Also, when you know a lot of stuff about a subject, it's often a subject of your interest, and you like to talk about your interests. People often join the discussion and again get upset when they're told they're wrong, and blame the person for "not appreciating their opinion" when their opinion is often based upon the wrong facts.

No knowing things is differernt and keep on showing off one knowledge is different... And nothing wrong in giving the opnion and try to correct someone is wrong but what the point of keep on arrguing on that endlessly when its obvious that other person is just don't ready to listen or want to ur opnion... ??.

one's knowledge should rather be shiny thought his/her work then word...

Alex · #33 05-01-2005, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by *ºÇåptäîn¤Çrä§hº*

Might be. I guess I can't describe it any better than with what I already said. It's about the HOW. Do you get the impression that someone just wants to help you and treats you equally. Or do you get the impression "let me tell you the only, my truth for you're a loser knowing ****".

LOL!

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]I gave my opinion about this in my previous post. But let me put it this way. I have less interest to find out whether someone is honest or loyal when he/she appears arrogant to me in the first place.

Fair enough. Of course.

Jovimimi · #34 05-01-2005, 02:30 AM

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arrogance stinks and you never hesitate to recognize it ...

Well, maybe that's my 'problem'; I don't seem to recognize it. And even if I do, it's always from people who really know what they're talking about. They're fully aware of both their knowledge and about the fact others don't have them. And they're right. I simply can't see anything wrong in that.

Alex some ppl are very Ok about what others ppl around carry as information toward them ... it's not your problem maybe it's my problem your scale of acceptation is higher than mine
I am maybe having probelm with ppl considering themselves superior or "better" enough to dispense their knowledge to others with condescension

Alex · #35 05-01-2005, 02:32 AM

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Alex some ppl are very Ok about what others ppl around carry as information toward them ... it's not your problem maybe it's my problem your scale of acceptation is higher than mine
I am maybe having probelm with ppl considering themselves superior or "better" enough to dispense their knowledge to others with condescension

But is it really their feeling of superiority or your feeling of minority?

*ºÇåptäîn¤Çrä§hº* · #36 05-01-2005, 02:38 AM

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But if it's just a performance, these people aren't really arrogant. You're just annoyed by the people who seem to be arrogant and who seem to be showing off.

Yes, they are in my perception. "Seem to be" means "performing" to me, here. They perform arrogance, they show off.

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They're fully aware of both their knowledge and about the fact others don't have them. And they're right. I simply can't see anything wrong in that.

It is less a matter whether they are actually right. It's rather about HOW they put, what they possibly have right, across.
I could think they do know their stuff and still find them arrogant. Arrogance paired with ignorance is worse, of course.

Alex · #37 05-01-2005, 02:43 AM

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Yes, they are in my perception. "Seem to be" means "performing" to me, here. They perform arrogance, they show off.

So no real arrogance then?

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It is less a matter whether they are actually right. It's rather about HOW they put, what they possibly have right, across.

But isn't that differenct for each and everyone of us?

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I could think they do know their stuff and still find them arrogant. Arrogance paired with ignorance is worse, of course.

Damn right. Trying to look intelligent when you're really not, is simply annoying.

Jovimimi · #38 05-01-2005, 02:43 AM

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Alex some ppl are very Ok about what others ppl around carry as information toward them ... it's not your problem maybe it's my problem your scale of acceptation is higher than mine
I am maybe having probelm with ppl considering themselves superior or "better" enough to dispense their knowledge to others with condescension

But is it really their feeling of superiority or your feeling of minority?

it's the same feeling ..superiority attitude is in fact from what i studied years ago and from what i witnessed untim today inferiotiy complex ...

but anyway ...I don't have any feeling of inferiority I have just a personnal scale that doesn't allow as much as yours in matter being teached about what to do what to think what to be what to not be by someone in a showing off way ....

if you don't get what I mean globally .. try to find somone famous you think as arrogant and we will see what is making me react different from you ...

Jovimimi · #39 05-01-2005, 02:45 AM

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Damn right. Trying to look intelligent when you're really not, is simply annoying.

it's the most common form of arrogance ... most of the time arrogance doesn't hide much real knowledge but a lot of emptiness

*ºÇåptäîn¤Çrä§hº* · #40 05-01-2005, 02:54 AM

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But is it really their feeling of superiority or your feeling of minority?

With your example of the women calling "everyone" arrogant, I can see where you're coming from.
But I think the point is that *I* think someone feels superior, not that I necessarily think *he/she* thinks it of him/herself.
It's more like how you encounter someone. Is he/she likeable or unsympathetic. Does this make said person par tout unsympathetic respectively likeable? It might be as well my fault as it might be the opposite's. Subjective.

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