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nor do i see GW and his government brain washing America into thinking that it's people are the chosen ones and ruling through xenophobia.
I do.
yes well-pointed out Choc

i think we all see that Jim
You guys don't live here, so you really don't know. All you see is what is being broadcasted on television. Propaganda as usual. Americans are brainwashed...we are the chosen ones..blah, blah, blah. The stereotype lives on thanks to the people that choose to believe in it.
sorry mouse, i didnt mean it like that. its just that sometimes here we get the impression that many americans regard themselves as being superior.
When you visited here, is that the impression you got??
of some people yes. i was a bit upset that there were so many people who hardly knew anything about the rest of the world
Really? What should we know about the rest of the world?

I have news for you, Europeans are regarded as snobs here. People who think that their s*** don't stink. Is it true that all are like that? I sure don't think so.
i mean about geography, politics, culture etc.
and i surely didnt say all people were like this

Choc, you just responded to Jim's post with, I Do. You also didn't say that you were talking about a small percentage either.

No offense to you Choc, but I am just sick and tired of hearing how brainwashed and ignorant we are. Especially when it is the exact same thing on the other side of the world.

Now I know you are not like that Choc, along with a great deal of other people that I talk to. But Germans have their faults, English, French, etc. It just seems everyone loves to point out the American peoples faults first, whereas I wouldn't think of doing the same.
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I'm sorry mouse....
I guess I just didn't think about it before I wrote.
I can understand how upset you are about it though...
It's the same as us always being reminded of Hitler and our past in general

Let's not argue about this anymore
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Lol

Someone said an amusing thing about the English...

Apparently the standard of posting on message boards goes downhill after 11:00 GMT - the time the pubs close in England!!!!

& then back up again a couple of hours later (When we have all fallen in drunken heaps on the floor!!!!!!)

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I'm sorry mouse....
I guess I just didn't think about it before I wrote.
I can understand how upset you are about it though...
It's the same as us always being reminded of Hitler and our past in general

Let's not argue about this anymore
Leave the fighting to Bush, Blair and Iraq.

I am dropping it Choc.
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Lol

Someone said an amusing thing about the English...

Apparently the standard of posting on message boards goes downhill after 11:00 GMT - the time the pubs close in England!!!!

& then back up again a couple of hours later (When we have all fallen in drunken heaps on the floor!!!!!!)

LOL..the peacemaker. heehee
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Now I know you are not like that Choc, along with a great deal of other people that I talk to. But Germans have their faults, English, French, etc. It just seems everyone loves to point out the American peoples faults first, whereas I wouldn't think of doing the same.
I love to criticise the English Mouse...

I'd say on the whole we are quite spineless - we put up with things we shouldn't have to (historically as well as now)...

we are too eager to please everyone

many protesters don't know what they are protesting about - i'm against war - but once it has started i'm for it... because i think if you are going to start someting you have to finish it...

one of my FEW criticisms of the war is that i don't see where it will ever stop - because after Iraq there is Israel, Zimbabwe let alone other countries perceived as being evil

i found in US that the people I met were amongst the nicest I have ever met - there were many who did live up to the US stereotype yes - and surprisingly many...

but i was in some of the more remote regions - one thing i picked up from New York is that there was a genuinely communal and friendly atmosphere - and you can tell many do have a great pride for their city...

i don't say all americans are ignorant - i say george bush is... i dislike the way his speeches sound very patronising and deliberately patriotic so as to ignore the real issues... i'm not anti american at all (i actually love the country from my only 2 visits there) but i'm certainly anti-george bush

back to criticising english:

many of the protests happen outside my college and i get quite angry because of WHY they are protesting - because of humanitarian issues etc...

the way i see it: even if the US is hypthetically for oil there will still be the humanitarian element and the people of Iraq will benefit...

I agree with that aspect of the war - i don't agree with the expansion of US industry over yet more of the world - monopolising markets etc though...

i'm not anti-Tony Blair and i think it is silly to regard him as GB's "poodle" - Blair is a very clever man - i just think that for him perhaps the motive is more humanitarian than it is economic

and i admire him in some ways for continuing despite public opinion - the great difference is that proportionally more US are for coalition politics than in the UK
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I'm sorry mouse....
I guess I just didn't think about it before I wrote.
I can understand how upset you are about it though...
It's the same as us always being reminded of Hitler and our past in general

Let's not argue about this anymore
Leave the fighting to Bush, Blair and Iraq.

I am dropping it Choc.
hope my post doesn't flare up the argument again - i've been quite diplomatic methinks
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many protesters don't know what they are protesting about - i'm against war - but once it has started i'm for it... because i think if you are going to start someting you have to finish it...
What kind of half-cocked part time effort is that???
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I'm sorry mouse....
I guess I just didn't think about it before I wrote.
I can understand how upset you are about it though...
It's the same as us always being reminded of Hitler and our past in general

Let's not argue about this anymore
Leave the fighting to Bush, Blair and Iraq.

I am dropping it Choc.
hope my post doesn't flare up the argument again - i've been quite diplomatic methinks
Oh, you were on "The List" but I will take you off now. LOL I understand where you are coming from.
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i knew this would happen

i'll hopefully appease Mouse but now i've got europeans to handle
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