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Old 12-18-2003, 04:02 PM
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the label we ran from the college was called dirty but more mecause of the magazine, it was called sirty mag get it....?

u trying to set a label up? alot of hard work mate but if u get a good band then u'll be jamming and if u want any advice or pointers then give us a shout i might be able to help.

just found out today sony r trying to get a cut from their artists gigs to minimise losses. thats really low ball on accounts of them and whereas i usually fight for the labels on the copyright thing thats just **** but i can see the other 4/ soon to be 3 majors following suit soon.
LOL is there no end to the greed of the labels. On the 15 point pay artists are lucky to break even most of the time after advances gigs are about the only way they can really make money. If it wasnt for the mcps artists would be screwed completly like.
and that is exactly why i think bands should be paid for their work ie buy the album dont download it. ive been gigging in proper venues for about 3 years now and ive only ever filled in one prs form which i think is pretty **** for the bands we;'ve covered
Im with ya there. I dont download albums at all i buy the albums. I prefer to have the originals anyway. Im quite new to all the names of stuff so whats a prs form lol? i aint heard of that one. Seems to me that for about 97% of bands they make f all from record deals like which is kinda crappy considering the wrote the damm album the record label is making millions off. Major labels seem evil obie has the right idea lol.
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Old 12-18-2003, 04:03 PM
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the prs (performign rights society) r the guys who deal with live performance royalties whereas the mcps deal with the mechanical royalties.

basically the prs has designated clubs, venues pubs etc... plus tv and radio stations who have to make a record of every published song played in the place. the prs then uses this to divvy up royalties they deserve.

a prs licence is like a telly licence but for music. every public place using music should have one. its not by coincidence that every wetherspoons pub doesnt play anymusic cos it would cost them a shitload.

anyways when u cover someones song live its still a performance of said persons work so when ur in a prs venue u should fill out a form sayign who covered it, who it was by who published it etc... and really u should put down the full setlist even if none of ur own stuff is published.

but again as iver said out of all the gigs weve done we've only been asked to fill one out once and its a place weve played loads of times
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the prs (performign rights society) r the guys who deal with live performance royalties whereas the mcps deal with the mechanical royalties.

basically the prs has designated clubs, venues pubs etc... plus tv and radio stations who have to make a record of every published song played in the place. the prs then uses this to divvy up royalties they deserve.

a prs licence is like a telly licence but for music. every public place using music should have one. its not by coincidence that every wetherspoons pub doesnt play anymusic cos it would cost them a shitload.

anyways when u cover someones song live its still a performance of said persons work so when ur in a prs venue u should fill out a form sayign who covered it, who it was by who published it etc... and really u should put down the full setlist even if none of ur own stuff is published.

but again as iver said out of all the gigs weve done we've only been asked to fill one out once and its a place weve played loads of times
Oh i have been on that site the name didnt ring a bell. Is that simelar to the ppl? or is ppl just radio and tv?. That is bad like only the one form not sure what the rate would have been but still if thats widespread artists are losing loads of money that would have gone into there pockets (or publishers as well if they been done into signing on of those things). Do you see the need of a publisher? when i start my label i will also run a puslishing company but i wont be taking anny of that 30-50% lol ill take 100% nah about 10% only using publishing incase the band gets stle from a major at least that way i still get something from them.
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Old 12-18-2003, 04:34 PM
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the prs (performign rights society) r the guys who deal with live performance royalties whereas the mcps deal with the mechanical royalties.

basically the prs has designated clubs, venues pubs etc... plus tv and radio stations who have to make a record of every published song played in the place. the prs then uses this to divvy up royalties they deserve.

a prs licence is like a telly licence but for music. every public place using music should have one. its not by coincidence that every wetherspoons pub doesnt play anymusic cos it would cost them a shitload.

anyways when u cover someones song live its still a performance of said persons work so when ur in a prs venue u should fill out a form sayign who covered it, who it was by who published it etc... and really u should put down the full setlist even if none of ur own stuff is published.

but again as iver said out of all the gigs weve done we've only been asked to fill one out once and its a place weve played loads of times
Oh i have been on that site the name didnt ring a bell. Is that simelar to the ppl? or is ppl just radio and tv?. That is bad like only the one form not sure what the rate would have been but still if thats widespread artists are losing loads of money that would have gone into there pockets (or publishers as well if they been done into signing on of those things). Do you see the need of a publisher? when i start my label i will also run a puslishing company but i wont be taking anny of that 30-50% lol ill take 100% nah about 10% only using publishing incase the band gets stle from a major at least that way i still get something from them.
dont fall into the trap my bro does when hes runnign his gigs and things. when ur the business man makign money then theres no space for being nice to the bands on moral grounds.

the worst deal u can expect from a publisher is a str8 50/50 cut but as u said 70/30 to the artist is pretty fair so why rob urself? no one gets ripped off that doesnt want to.

ill go into the merits n stuff of publishign later no but im off shoppign just now so ill tell u later
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Old 12-18-2003, 04:37 PM
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the prs (performign rights society) r the guys who deal with live performance royalties whereas the mcps deal with the mechanical royalties.

basically the prs has designated clubs, venues pubs etc... plus tv and radio stations who have to make a record of every published song played in the place. the prs then uses this to divvy up royalties they deserve.

a prs licence is like a telly licence but for music. every public place using music should have one. its not by coincidence that every wetherspoons pub doesnt play anymusic cos it would cost them a shitload.

anyways when u cover someones song live its still a performance of said persons work so when ur in a prs venue u should fill out a form sayign who covered it, who it was by who published it etc... and really u should put down the full setlist even if none of ur own stuff is published.

but again as iver said out of all the gigs weve done we've only been asked to fill one out once and its a place weve played loads of times
Oh i have been on that site the name didnt ring a bell. Is that simelar to the ppl? or is ppl just radio and tv?. That is bad like only the one form not sure what the rate would have been but still if thats widespread artists are losing loads of money that would have gone into there pockets (or publishers as well if they been done into signing on of those things). Do you see the need of a publisher? when i start my label i will also run a puslishing company but i wont be taking anny of that 30-50% lol ill take 100% nah about 10% only using publishing incase the band gets stle from a major at least that way i still get something from them.
dont fall into the trap my bro does when hes runnign his gigs and things. when ur the business man makign money then theres no space for being nice to the bands on moral grounds.

the worst deal u can expect from a publisher is a str8 50/50 cut but as u said 70/30 to the artist is pretty fair so why rob urself? no one gets ripped off that doesnt want to.

ill go into the merits n stuff of publishign later no but im off shoppign just now so ill tell u later
No problem. I just dont see the point in them as artists can get 100% of there royalties by registering with 3 sites one of which they have to to be signed up in the first place.
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what sites u talking about mate?

as u probably know, publishign deals with the royalties and all but they do alot more. i look at them almost like labels for songwriters u know. they divvy up the songwriting and performance credits/ royalties accordingly and tout the songs not the actual band.

and of course they work with the mcps et al to collect the royalties.

for a small scale operation a publishign house isnt really viable but if ur wanting the bands on it to go somewhere u should look out publishing deals for them.
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what sites u talking about mate?

as u probably know, publishign deals with the royalties and all but they do alot more. i look at them almost like labels for songwriters u know. they divvy up the songwriting and performance credits/ royalties accordingly and tout the songs not the actual band.

and of course they work with the mcps et al to collect the royalties.

for a small scale operation a publishign house isnt really viable but if ur wanting the bands on it to go somewhere u should look out publishing deals for them.
Not all bands need a publishing deal look at the darkness they arent signed to any publisher at all and are the biggest rock band in the uk at the moment......and think of the money they have made by doing it that way 100% or royalties.
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