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Go to any major city and you see people in bins!! That has nothing to do with smoking weed!!

Why is it so strange to compare alcohol to cannabis? Both are soft drugs and both have an effect on you in some way, it's just that alcohol is accepted and cannabis is not, in most countries that is. There is no difference to both. If cannabis should be banned than alcohol should to and in all honesty I think that alcohol causes more problems than cannabis ever will. How many deaths each year through drunk drivers or people getting into fights and what not.

In honesty they are most probably as bad as each other, but alcohol is just part of the culture and cannabis is here too.

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However U can drink alcohol without becoming drunk & some alcohol has positive medical properties. Cannibis u get hammered very quickly.

Also, since banning alchohol is probably not really feasible, why use it as a platform to promote something just as harmful?
True. There is no reason to smoke cannibis unless you want to get stoned (and some medical reasons).

I don't think cannibis should be promoted, but I think I should be able to choose. If you get caught in the US smoking weed you'll get serious jailtime. Though you can beat up your wife on alcohol without any problems.
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Can leave you depressed
what if you start off that way? it doesnt make it worse! then again it doesnt help
Not true!you think thing over and things lose there problem
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not true, you think things over yes but it doesnt help, you get more involved
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Go to any major city and you see people in bins!! That has nothing to do with smoking weed!!

Why is it so strange to compare alcohol to cannabis? Both are soft drugs and both have an effect on you in some way, it's just that alcohol is accepted and cannabis is not, in most countries that is. There is no difference to both. If cannabis should be banned than alcohol should to and in all honesty I think that alcohol causes more problems than cannabis ever will. How many deaths each year through drunk drivers or people getting into fights and what not.

In honesty they are most probably as bad as each other, but alcohol is just part of the culture and cannabis is here too.

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I agree they r treating inconsistently.

Point is - if Alcohol was introduced today - do u really think we would allow it??
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I watched a tv program 2 years ago and it said that Holland has a bad drug problem, is this not true then?
No, it's not true.
http://www.gdpn.org/dpna/resources/p...rug_policy.htm

According to Netwerk:

* The Netherlands is the No 1. producer of Ecstasy
* The Netherlands has marijuana cultivations of excellent quality
* The Netherlands is a transit country for heroin and cocaine
* Criminals make a lot of money from the drug trade

EDIT: More stats: http://www.benneke.dk/Drug%20use%20i...population.htm

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Does this constitute Holland having a problem???

- Yes, Holland produces Ecstacy. But like I said, tested at clubs for it's pureness by police at clubs so you know what you are buying.
- Cannabis can be cultivated here without prosicution, but up to 5 plants for personal use. Dutch grown is as pure as it comes and is therefore "safer" to smoke.
- Every country is a transit at one time or another. However, Holland does not have lenient hard drug laws and if caught with possession of cocaine or heroin or anything else that is classed as a hard drug, the maximum penalty in prison is given.
- Don't criminals always make money on drug trade????

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True there are problems with canabis but if its easyly avaiable then people wont abuse it so much, of course your gonna bet some that do but they will anyway.If it were more avaliable then people like me who get real bad pain could escape it for a while
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True there are problems with canabis but if its easyly avaiable then people wont abuse it so much, of course your gonna bet some that do but they will anyway.If it were more avaliable then people like me who get real bad pain could escape it for a while
It'll be far easier to abuse it & more ppl that might be likely to abuse it (i.e. addictive personalties) would get exposure to it.

Also - for someone reason, it makes my right leg go dead & really painful I thought it was meant to reduce pain?
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If you get caught in the US smoking weed you'll get serious jailtime. Though you can beat up your wife on alcohol without any problems.
That's ****ed up. But there are a lot of things wrong with the US laws, as there are in other countries.

I'm not saying anything either way, but I am pro-choice as long as people aren't hurting others or getting others involved. Everyone has a right to choose. You either use or you don't, but others have to respect that. If either side starts pushing, it doesn't work.

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True there are problems with canabis but if its easyly avaiable then people wont abuse it so much, of course your gonna bet some that do but they will anyway.If it were more avaliable then people like me who get real bad pain could escape it for a while
It'll be far easier to abuse it & more ppl that might be likely to abuse it (i.e. addictive personalties) would get exposure to it.

Also - for someone reason, it makes my right leg go dead & really painful I thought it was meant to reduce pain?
LOL! Maybe you sit funny when you smoke it!! It usually just makes you mellow or just enhances your emotions.. never heard of it deadening a limb!

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* The Netherlands has marijuana cultivations of excellent quality
This is a good thing really though. You want the pure good quality if you are a user


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* The Netherlands is a transit country for heroin and cocaine
* Criminals make a lot of money from the drug trade
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How is that different from other countries?


It is often said that the Netherlands have a drug problem, but really what it is is that it attracts all the drug users from other countries that find a safe-haven someplace in the world. Drug users flock to Amsterdam (along with countless tourists), not the country turning people into drug users.

Any statistics can be construed to prove any point.
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