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Originally Posted by Cuchulainn
yea u make a gud point! (espeacially about bush!!) the point im makig (poorly i know but give a me a chane im trying lol) is where do we get our values from? if they come from our society why are they right? of they are made by man who is to say that they are right! f lifes just surviving (as jon says) then shuld it not be everyman for himself! and then morals wuld go out the window!
i just think there is something inside all of us that makes us have morals, have a sense of right and wrong! now i know u wont all agree that is gods gods doing but it sure it the doing of those in the world today ie bush and bin laden!
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Exactly, morals come from within and yes I'm sure that society has something to do with it but it is also what you believe is correct. My father is an atheist who has never once stolen or murdered or cheated. He doesn't need the 10 commandments to know that is not right.
I think people inately know what is right and wrong and you have a choice whether to do what is right, which isn't always the easiest path or to do what is wrong. Otherwise people like Ted Bundy, who came from a middle class upbringing with Christian parents, would not have become the serial killer he became - you are either good or not (although there is room to manoeuvre), God does not come into it.