Controversial Islamist author slams Darwin

That would be all well and good if religious people left everybody else alone but they of course don't do that. Religious groups can't be content until they have imposed their views and their rules on the lives of everybody. Until religions leave me alone and stop trying to impose their wholly unfounded beliefs as truth it's necessary to oppose it.

And your following of Pascal's wager is a joke. Believing just in case because if you're right you go to heaven and if you're wrong then you wont know so it doesn't matter is pathetic for two reasons. 1) Pretending to believe something does not mean you believe something and thinking you can fool an omnipotent deity is impossible thus making the whole premise flawed and 2) You're deciding consciously to live under a delusion of epic proportions which would have you committed to a psych ward if your particular delusion wasn't so widespread.

i amit it extremly annoying when religious people preach, but hell richard dawkins book is the also preaching only this time for athesim!

but ot be honest preaching on both sides has never brothered me much, simply because it has never come into conflict with me not caring and not taking to much interest in it, im in politics, and it still hasnt annoyed me, ill go march for gay rights, campagin for safe sex, support darwins theroys, give to the poor and homless, i have never come across people trying to intrude in my life with anything. maybe you just live in an area where its a big thing, i dnt know!


and when you love attacking religion as much as you do, im really not surprised you come into so much contact with it! your giving the impression you dnt get to sleep at njight because religion is tryiong to impose its will on you lol

i believe in God, thats my faith, dont force it on others, dont keep people awake at night, i dont make people feel bad for not believing in God, i dont go and build up my defenses just in case and evil atheist attacks me when i least expect it,

go to mass each sunday, give to the poor, i help raise money for charitys, i work to make my country a better place to live in, all done without brothering either religious people or atheist! or taping into my dangerious child abusing religion to make it better! i see a problem and i do what is best! a free thinking religious person! now we really are getting crazy!

How many times can this be said - you cannot preach atheism! Atheism is, by definition, 'without god' and as such there is nothing to preach!

ok so if you want it to be worded right, its annoying when religious people try to convert you, but hell RD does the smae, he trying to CONVERT people away from religion

Atheist is the norm as far as I'm concerned. If there was no mention to kids of some 2,000 year old book, they'd know no different right? So everyone is born without the knowledge of any such thing as a god. Thus, everyone is converted to follow a certain religion, because religions were formed in such a way that followers are told to get as many people to follow that religion as possible.

All that people like Richard Dawkins are trying to do is point out to people how flawed religion is, in the hope of stopping people being sucked into it.

May I ask, what do you think of something like Scientology? Given the quote I like to use, which is very much relevant...

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours"

i wouldnt fully agree with that, tho your point is vaild, but then you have to look at people who havnt been taught about religion in schools but later on in life go on to believe in God, scientists who do so much good in this world, study things like darwins theroy, yet still believe in god, people who study all the flaws in religion and yet still believe in a god,

we then have other people, who were taught religion aty a younger each yet go out and dont believe in God, Darkins is a prime example of that!

when push comes to shove, believe when i say that people just dont care enough about it! sure its all weel in good when your a student and the like, but then you grow up, have a family and the religion atheist debate just doesnt matter!

Yes, people can go on to discover religion later in life - but if people weren't force-fed it from birth, and were brought up to follow logic and facts and evidence, then maybe not many would actually end up following it.

but explain then how so many people who are the "fact finders" believe in God? plenty of people are brought up following logic and facts, they go on to discover more and yet they are very religious! people can be athesit there whole lives and yet in later life convert! faith is faith, people follow it for sommany reason be they force fed or not

I think that Butters or someone explained it before, something about how people can separate the 2 things and believe in both at once. I'm sure he'll be along later with a long reply

lol oooo, im more than sure he will be! probs something to do this chemicals in the brain or something!

tho ill ask people a question, did you or/ will bring up you children to believe in Santa? hes make believe, doesnt exist, he very commerical!

but i defy anyone to say that christmas was better after you found out that stana wasnt real!!, God maybe be fictional, i dont believe so, but theres an example of something make believe that was fantastic! even RD brought up his children to believe in Santa, tho he amits now that if he had the choice over again he'd rethink it, not letting a child believe in santa! that to me is child abuse!