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Old 03-18-2005, 12:14 AM
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If I was in this situation, and I was totally in love with the guy then I would. I was brought up catholic but I dont believe in anything now.

But, I probably wouldnt beleive in this other religion or anything to do with it. It would just be because I am so in love with this person that I would do anything to make their live easier and help them be happy.
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If I was in this situation, and I was totally in love with the guy then I would. I was brought up catholic but I dont believe in anything now.

But, I probably wouldnt beleive in this other religion or anything to do with it. It would just be because I am so in love with this person that I would do anything to make their live easier and help them be happy.
They obviously wouldn't love you as much to force you to believe something you don't want to
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If I was in this situation, and I was totally in love with the guy then I would. I was brought up catholic but I dont believe in anything now.

But, I probably wouldnt beleive in this other religion or anything to do with it. It would just be because I am so in love with this person that I would do anything to make their live easier and help them be happy.
They obviously wouldn't love you as much to force you to believe something you don't want to
They're not forcing you though - hence the thinking and considereing and all that.
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If I was in this situation, and I was totally in love with the guy then I would. I was brought up catholic but I dont believe in anything now.

But, I probably wouldnt beleive in this other religion or anything to do with it. It would just be because I am so in love with this person that I would do anything to make their live easier and help them be happy.
They obviously wouldn't love you as much to force you to believe something you don't want to
They're not forcing you though - hence the thinking and considereing and all that.
Yes, Keeper is right. You never know what you will do until you are in that situation. It is all about give and take. When you know that you have met someone who is truly special, you do things that you would have never pictured yourself doing before that person came along.
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If I was in this situation, and I was totally in love with the guy then I would. I was brought up catholic but I dont believe in anything now.

But, I probably wouldnt beleive in this other religion or anything to do with it. It would just be because I am so in love with this person that I would do anything to make their live easier and help them be happy.
They obviously wouldn't love you as much to force you to believe something you don't want to
They're not forcing you though - hence the thinking and considereing and all that.
Yes, Keeper is right. You never know what you will do until you are in that situation. It is all about give and take. When you know that you have met someone who is truly special, you do things that you would have never pictured yourself doing before that person came along.
Thats what I mean... it wouldn't be they are forcing you into it. Its you knowing that you want to do this for someone you love.
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If I was in this situation, and I was totally in love with the guy then I would. I was brought up catholic but I dont believe in anything now.

But, I probably wouldnt beleive in this other religion or anything to do with it. It would just be because I am so in love with this person that I would do anything to make their live easier and help them be happy.
They obviously wouldn't love you as much to force you to believe something you don't want to
They're not forcing you though - hence the thinking and considereing and all that.
Yes, Keeper is right. You never know what you will do until you are in that situation. It is all about give and take. When you know that you have met someone who is truly special, you do things that you would have never pictured yourself doing before that person came along.
I was about to post exactly this. It's very difficult to say what you would or wouldn't do unless it's happening to you. I used to say I would never do such and such a thing but eventually I realised I was wrong.

I would try to speak/meet the parents as Kathleen mentioned above, if after these discussions they still feel very strong about the whole issue well then yes, it is a matter the two of you have to decide.
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really shitty situation you're in Mike.

I can kinda relate. My dad would go mental if I got really serious with a Catholic. About a 3rd of me thinks he's just a daft old dude set in hsi ways, a 3rd sympathises because he's been brought up like that and it's all he really knows to think liek and a 3rd kinda respects it cause even when he does seem like a nutty old guy, he tends to be right in the end.

even at that, he'd never threaten to do anything about it.

it;s hard to give advice unless you're in that situation but maybe I'm just a little jaded but many people have done the most incredibly stupid things for someone they thought they loved and it's went tits up whereas for the most part, your family and friends are the ones who'll always have your back. Girlfriends etc... won't so you've got to consider your side of things too.

Hope you get soemthign sorted out.

I'm assuming she's Asian / Muslim and I'm just wondering if race as well as religion might be an issue here too?
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really shitty situation you're in Mike.

I can kinda relate. My dad would go mental if I got really serious with a Catholic. About a 3rd of me thinks he's just a daft old dude set in hsi ways, a 3rd sympathises because he's been brought up like that and it's all he really knows to think liek and a 3rd kinda respects it cause even when he does seem like a nutty old guy, he tends to be right in the end.

even at that, he'd never threaten to do anything about it.

it;s hard to give advice unless you're in that situation but maybe I'm just a little jaded but many people have done the most incredibly stupid things for someone they thought they loved and it's went tits up whereas for the most part, your family and friends are the ones who'll always have your back. Girlfriends etc... won't so you've got to consider your side of things too.
Yeah, I did think of that - but getting converted isn't something that can't be undone.

The way I see it - If there is a God, there is only 1 God. All of the different religions are just different ways of worshipping him. & that isn't going to get u anywhere, the purpose is to just lead a moral life (the things that all religions are based on if you strip away the bulls****.

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I'm assuming she's Asian / Muslim and I'm just wondering if race as well as religion might be an issue here too?
Cheers & thanks for the advice everyone. I don't know if race will be an issue - but it makes it easier to sell I guess. The majority of the issues are culture based, but the culture is kind of centered around the religion. Crazy thing is, my Dad suggested it....

According to the 'rules' of Islam, a Muslim bloke is allowed to marry a Christian girl (assuming she will convert). Girls aren't allowed to do the same, but it is the 21st Century & Males Prophets shouldn't be allowed to have it all their own way. They used to be allowed 4 wives
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Yes, Keeper is right. You never know what you will do until you are in that situation. It is all about give and take. When you know that you have met someone who is truly special, you do things that you would have never pictured yourself doing before that person came along.
VERY true. However, VERY often people will regret much later doing all those things they did 'for the love of it'. Very few people can turn into somebody someone else wants them to be and be happy with themselves in the long run.


I only glanced through all the replies, but I am really interested in what YOU think is right, Mike. What your beliefs are and how you see yourself living a life that is being dictated by your significant others parents. I realize the predicament, but in the end, it is your lives, not the parents.

As far as emotional blackmail --- I have no patience for that. Being it my own mother or my best friends. It is wrong, wrong, wrong and WRONG. Get them counseling if you can't ignore it (I realize that is not a realistic option).

In the end, you have to think long and hard about what you think you can do for a lifetime of yours. There are oodles of opinions and what might work for one person may not for another. Personally, I could never enter a situation like yours, but alas I am single with a reason lol.

I'd be interested what your decisions will be though.
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According to the 'rules' of Islam, a Muslim bloke is allowed to marry a Christian girl (assuming she will convert). Girls aren't allowed to do the same,


a guy is allowed to marry a women 'of the book' [i.e the torah, the bible or the qu'ran- so we're talking either a jew, a christian or a muslim]. i dont think they have to convert tho because technically all 3 originate from the same message. but they have to be real believers and not just someone whos been christened or whatever.

the reason why girls cant do the same is because her husband has the 'power' (if ya like- dont get your knickers into a twist this topic has been discussed before) to overrule her and make her change religions.....


if your girlfriend is a muslim then im pretty sure the mother wont commit suicide. its all talk, if you wanna be really anal about it you can show her quotes from the qu'ran which tell her that its the worst sin there is- and you cant really repent can you. personally i think that that would bring more 'shame' on the family then anything else her daughter has done.


also, even if you do convert (on your grounds) then your intentions wont be pure and hence your conversion wont really be valid anyway.

but at the same time her religion wont recognise your marriage if youre not a muslim.

from my own experience i know parents that have come round to situations like this in the end...it just takes time mike.
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