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Mike · #31 01-10-2004, 04:43 PM

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mike, most people dont spee don dangerous roads for obviosu reasons

people speed on nice long straight roads cos theres very little chance of an accident.

i dunno if u drive or not but if u do u'll know fine well the majority of cameras or on long straights with no real danger if ur a little over the limit.

I drive 80 miles a day. My journey consists of battling out of Nottingham, driving at the speed limit through accident black spots where there are cameras. Then speeding down the M1 & A50, where there are no cameras. I can tell you that most of the traffic jams due to accidents I experience are on the A50 & M1.

At the end of the day, speed limits are there for a reason - breaking these limits is not a right, it is illegal. Cameras are merely a way of upholding this. If not so many people broke the speed limit where cameras are, they might not be seen as so financially viable.

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while we're at it, a couple of papers today had an ex copper in it telling them how the cops have a competition going to see who can get the most money from sdpeed cameras and parking fines etc... he claimed one guy alone in his force racked up 20 g's worth of fines in an 8 hour shift and when the paper foned up the people that deal with the fines they said they couldnt give specific details but £20,000 wasnt even the highest amount someones gave out in fines in an 8 hour shift.

I would think they might have the same sort of competition with burglars. They can't catch you if you are not breaking the limit.

The way I see it, if u want to speed - it is your choice just don't moan about the consequences. I speed every day & if / when I get caught it will be my fault.

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thats like 3 grand an hour nearly

Hasn't road safety been increasing as a result though?

actually mike whilst revenue from cameras has rocketed but 100's of % since they were introduced, the amount of accidents and road deaths has stayed pretty much constant with the level it was at before they were introduced.

I heard it'd gone down,

But even if your stats are true - it isn't bad considering the amount of cars pouring onto the road. My journey has got 10 mins longer due to the traffic in about 11 months. My family owns an extra car - soon to be 2.

Yet deaths / accidents aren't increasing.

jovifaith · #32 01-10-2004, 04:51 PM

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Well in n. ireland after passin ur test u r restricted to 45 mph for a year, even on motorways, its a hazard and loads get caught doing the speedy "50 - 60" where u can actually do 70! thank goodness i am out of em.

and theres a very good reason for that sstefazy.

we have the highest road deaths in the uk...and speed is the no1 killer.....and its the little boy racers that cause it....we really need to do more than slap them with 3 penelty points on their license for speeding.

Mike · #33 01-10-2004, 05:04 PM

Road Safety stats up to 2002.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/group...ats_025863.pdf

Overall Casualties are down by 11,000 between 2001 & 2002.

Deaths are down by just over 1000.

Cycling is safer & Child casualties have gone down.

Car Usage casualties have gone down by just over 5000.

UKjovi · #34 01-10-2004, 10:52 PM

I heard the other day that in Europe they are doing away with speed cameras as they dont work , i cant remember which country it was but it is said they cause more accidents than stop them .It might be because they drive differently to us,as someone said earlier we have boy racers i nealy got hit by one earlier today

jovifaith · #35 01-11-2004, 01:34 AM

not doing away with them here....setting up new ones all the time....

and yes your right i dont think they do much good....you slow down coming up to them....and then speed up when you get past them....i know....ive done it myself.

Jag · #36 01-11-2004, 01:37 AM

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Its just a licence to get more money out of drivers. Mor often than not They dont put speed cameras up in dangerous areas, they put they them up where they know people will get caught.

BANG we have a winner. ever notice the places they actually need cameras they have signs to slow u down but the places that arent as dangerous whereu can speed ie long quiet straights they do have cameras

exactly. Theyve put speed cameras up near where I live at the bottom of a hill, and lowered the speed limit to 30MPH. It doesnt need to be that low but theyre catching loads of people and making them loads of money

so the polis can sit ont heir arses all day doign paper work and the politicians can go to westminister in jags

no politician walking in my pants to my westminister uni

UKjovi · #37 01-11-2004, 01:17 PM

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not doing away with them here....setting up new ones all the time....

and yes your right i dont think they do much good....you slow down coming up to them....and then speed up when you get past them....i know....ive done it myself.

I think that most people do they dont work

jess · #38 01-11-2004, 01:21 PM

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