Democracy at work? re: BNP

you're right.

fortunately such things don't really happen in austria. (this country is almost too peaceful if you ask me i mean its nice not to have to worry if you're out on your own at night, but sometimes i wish life over here was a bit more exciting :P ) if you're looking for action (not necessarily violence) don't come to austria

(wonder why its so peaceful when it has 9 percent immigrants as compared with only 3 percent in great britain)

probably alot to do with your attitude or maybe it's got alot to do with the reasons people immigrate to Austria rather than here.

It's a bit of a kick in the teeth when people pay into the system for years here then see people who dont actually need to be here takign more from it than them when they've put absolutely nothign into it.

Pour example' as the french say. my gran was in cyprus i think it was last year. she got talkign to a waiter who was goign on about how he couldnt wait for the place to join the EU so he could come to Britain and claim all the money he could. My gan asked exactly what he had contributed to the system and he said nothing......

Some of them in France go far enough to have some influence on government decisions. For example our former government was an alliance government between 4 parties, 1 big one and 3 fringe ones that managed to have ministers seats.

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That's the problem with such parties. They are very good to report actual problems in our societies that other politicians are either to scared or to disconnected from reality to mention, and are often brilliant orators.
But when you look on the reasons they give to these problems, and worse, the solutions they propose (which you will notice you'll seldom hear publically), you see what they really are and the danger they represent.

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On the case itself, the reason they were ordered to edit these scenes is probably that the trials haven't been carried out yet (right?).

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You're right - it is pretty lowball stuff. Shall ppl start recommending that every person on the same race as someone that has committed a crime be evicted? There would be no-one left.

Point being, they're still right about the fact that just about anything done to an ethnic minority by a white person is a "racially motivated crime" whereas it's much harder to get anyoen to claim crime by ethnic minorites against white i racially motivitaed because people are too worried about being branded racist.

That isn't one of their policies, equality between different races.

they're not claiming it to be they're just pointing it out.

it happens there's no denying it they just happen to be using it to further their aims much int he same way Labours pointing out stuff Michael Howard has said or whats happened under Tory governments to further their cause.

Yeah, but The Tories & Labour, John Prescott aside, aren't a bunch of thugs.