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Old 12-10-2003, 11:46 PM
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Who should I contact that would help me!!
How do I know what is white magic or what is black magic??
How do I identify the two??
and Why is white magic good and black magic bad and dangerous???
Who do you contact? Your best bet would be a psychiatrist or even better would be a psychic or a medium. They would be more in tune with paranormal things.

White magic is good magic. Literally. White magic is what Wiccas are, they are in touch with nature and the spells are for good. Black magic, like voodoo, is bad.. very bad. Black magic usually uses curses or bad spells, using magic to improve your situation (material way) is not a good idea or putting a curse on someone will always backfire. Voodoo is extremely bad, creating zombies, curses and so forth. You can identify them now I think!! Black magic is bad, because it is usually at the expense of someone else, you wish someone bad luck. You know the saying what goes around comes around? Well, think of it like that. Using magic to better your situation can attract bad spirits and energy. By the way, stay away from Ouija boards too!

Hope this helps, let me know if you need any more info.

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ouija boards! geeze i remember they used to be on sale here!! i know a wicca, he is real great and a good person...i do alot of vision quests, alot of native american spirtuality is my thing, i have connected with spirt guides and so forth and continue to do so. u know, blakc magic can also be given in the form of a bad eye...or an evil eye and how someone puts their hate and jelaously onto u.... sorry to ramble but each of us has a third eye...but not many of us know ho to tap into it.
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Old 12-11-2003, 12:21 AM
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I agree that it does sound like you have a curse on you. But there are other possibilities; The dreams you had before he died may have been a forwarn of your concsious who knew this was going to happen, or maybe someone from the Other Side (if you believe in that) was trying to tell you that. It could be possible. And the dreams you may be having now can be a great deal of things. It may be that your friend is trying to contact you, but your afraid of him? You said that you wouldn't go to any of the ceremony's he had (which i can defintily see why), his beliefs and ways of life may have created some fear of him that maybe you weren't aware of, but your subconsious knew. Now when you sense him around, or he comes around, you may put this atomautic facade on him that isn't really him, it's just you think it's evil - whoever's in your dream may not actually be menacing at all, your just assuming the worst -- i know that seems REALLY improbable, but i don't know how else to explain it . You may be running away from him, because of the facade and he's just trying to chase you, trying to get you to listen. Which may also be the noises to; whoever's trying to contact you, is trying to get your attention.

There was this little girl who had died but then revived. after her revival, she used to have terrible nightmares of a shadowed figure holding her down and smothering her "to death". After seeking help from a medium, it was found that the shadowed figure was her Spirit Guide, trying to keep her in her body (because she was trying to go back towards the light -- to "home", to the Other Side). .... i'm not quite sure what that has to do with all this but i think it's because she had thought the evil figure in her dream was trying to kill her, when in reality it was trying to, help and save her.

I don't know if that made any sense or with what you believe...but my beliefs may be different then everyone else's. I just don't want to label it as black magic right away. But you should get help, and i would recommend a medium (an actual one, of course, not any fakes). you would have to really make sure that the medium was true and actual, there are some convincing phony's out there.

Actually, a Ouija board could be a good tool to figure out what's going on. You just DEFINITLY need to know how to work one and how to keep all evil away. But...i would be very frightened to use one in your situation, so i don't think it would be the best...something could go a wry if it is something evil. But for normal occasions, a Ouija board is great - as long as there's an experienced person there with you that is an expert and knows how to keep the evil away.
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Old 12-11-2003, 12:53 AM
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I agree that it does sound like you have a curse on you. But there are other possibilities; The dreams you had before he died may have been a forwarn of your concsious who knew this was going to happen, or maybe someone from the Other Side (if you believe in that) was trying to tell you that. It could be possible. And the dreams you may be having now can be a great deal of things. It may be that your friend is trying to contact you, but your afraid of him? You said that you wouldn't go to any of the ceremony's he had (which i can defintily see why), his beliefs and ways of life may have created some fear of him that maybe you weren't aware of, but your subconsious knew. Now when you sense him around, or he comes around, you may put this atomautic facade on him that isn't really him, it's just you think it's evil - whoever's in your dream may not actually be menacing at all, your just assuming the worst -- i know that seems REALLY improbable, but i don't know how else to explain it . You may be running away from him, because of the facade and he's just trying to chase you, trying to get you to listen. Which may also be the noises to; whoever's trying to contact you, is trying to get your attention.

There was this little girl who had died but then revived. after her revival, she used to have terrible nightmares of a shadowed figure holding her down and smothering her "to death". After seeking help from a medium, it was found that the shadowed figure was her Spirit Guide, trying to keep her in her body (because she was trying to go back towards the light -- to "home", to the Other Side). .... i'm not quite sure what that has to do with all this but i think it's because she had thought the evil figure in her dream was trying to kill her, when in reality it was trying to, help and save her.

I don't know if that made any sense or with what you believe...but my beliefs may be different then everyone else's. I just don't want to label it as black magic right away. But you should get help, and i would recommend a medium (an actual one, of course, not any fakes). you would have to really make sure that the medium was true and actual, there are some convincing phony's out there.

Actually, a Ouija board could be a good tool to figure out what's going on. You just DEFINITLY need to know how to work one and how to keep all evil away. But...i would be very frightened to use one in your situation, so i don't think it would be the best...something could go a wry if it is something evil. But for normal occasions, a Ouija board is great - as long as there's an experienced person there with you that is an expert and knows how to keep the evil away.
i agree with all that..apart from the ouija board part... try a vision quest too, its more of a subconcious journey.
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Hi this post maybe ridiculous to some of you but I just wanted to see what you might think, or if someone knows something about this that might help me.

I've never been one to belive in witchcraft or that a person can read my mind or see my future or get the soul out of his body to come into somebody elses house or anything to that effect.

About 3 years ago I had a friend who was very deep into practicing that kind of stuff, and he was getting into voodoo, it was creeppy the way he talked about the moon and the sacrifices he made with his soul to the god that burned within the earth and stuff like that, he and his pals used to invite me to some kind of ceremony they always had on halloween, (I never went).Anyway he died about a year ago, and about 2 weeks before he died I had these dreams that he had commited suicide (different scenarios in each one, and there were about 4 different dreams), on one he hanged himself , on another he shot himself, and he died going of a bridge in his car at 4 am.There was no alcohol in his vein and he wasn't using drugs, the cops said maybe he fell asleep while driving, but something tells me that he drove himself off that bridge because he gave me a bunch of cd's that he had the week before, like he was cleaning his closet before he left somehow.

My girlfriend is very religious and she tells me that all I have to do is have faith in God and all will turn out all right.But I have trouble sleeping, i hear things. There is another friend i have that used to practice this sort of things, that said to me that once this thing picks you it has trouble letting you go.sometimes I used to see shadows and hear things outside my window, so i don't sleep in my room anymore, I watch tv until my eyes close on me, I have this dreams that some shadow is chasing me and wants to kill me, and i keep running but I still can't get away, and these dreams keep happening it's like I'm going crazy or something.I deny believing in this because I don't want to sink any deeper into the world that got my friend so depressed to think that suicide was a solution to his problems.

How would a Psychiatrist see this, would they send me to a sanitarium or something??Does anybody know anything about witchcraft??or voodoo??
Anybody ever experience something of this nature???
u need to confront this figure...also, u say tahthe shadow wantsto kill u, how do u know that? i think the shadow is trying to warn u personally, alot of souls et stuck, between this side and the other side and they wander aimlessly thru the earth.. i think however this figure is trying to warn u of something or one... the sooner u confront it the better.....good luck
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i agree with all that..apart from the ouija board part... try a vision quest too, its more of a subconcious journey.
My sister has recommended that to me too :P I would really like to do it someday -- and i've found several different or so 'journey's' but i haven't done any yet...but i'll eventually get there

I really agree with you, Jag. This needs to be confronted, Javier, sooner or later. And it's best that it's sooner, so that you don't have to suffer all this anymore. Maybe it can simply even being as confronting it in your dreams. Can you control yourself whatsoever in your dreams? If so, try and force yourself to face the figure. I know that this may be very difficult and very frightening, but if it is just someone trying to contact you, this may help solve it a bit; bring you to the real person, maybe? Trying to face the figure would probably be the most difficult solution to your problem, especially if you have little or no control over yourself in your dreams, but i don't think it would do anymore harm then what the dreams are doing now. I really hope that everything gets better for you, Javier.
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Witchcraft is real. I have a friend who practices witchcraft and you would be surprised what she can do. She's in white magic, though.
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wooooow.....why i never see anything out of my window??i never even wake up before 6 hour sleep...man!!!!! u r blessed by evil....& hey i do belive in withcraft...many times it has sucessed to make me laugh....FOR MORE INFORMATION....see the movie "craft"

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I don't have any control whatsoever in my dreams, don't know how!!!
I wasn't really afraid of him, but more of what sorrounded him that got me intimidated, and How do I know that it's trying to kill me??
because tha's what i assume when some big shadow is shasing after you with a knife, but when i think about it it never gets to kill me it I'm awake when it's caught up with me, but the knife i coming right at me!!!Why Why would I assume it doesn't want to kill me???
I don't know this sh*t sounds to complicated!!
how do I go about confronting this??
I don't have any control over myself in my dreams but I guess I could search out a medium, never been to trusting with ouija boards, that game creeps me out, and yes to e that's a game.what sort of person do I contact, what should he know about and it can't be with black magic right??
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I don't have any control whatsoever in my dreams, don't know how!!!
This is another subject entirely! It's quite simple to know when to control your dreams; it’s just that doing the actual controlling a little more difficult. You have to realize you're in a dream, whilst you dream in order to start controlling anything. You can do this by recognizing something that doesn’t exist in your dream, like a dragon or a Cheshire Cat for example. When you do this, you realize that you’re in a dream state and are able to control what happens.

Some sleep clinics are willing to let you sleep with a device on that blinks red dots over your eyelids when you start REM sleep. This indicates to you that you started to dream, and then can take control.

For the last few weeks, I have been able to know when I am dreaming, but once I realize this, I end up waking myself up. It might not be the same for you.

I think that a median or physic will do the best for you however. They could relieve you of your nightmares faster than doing trail-and-error repeatedly for weeks or months. I don’t have enough personal knowledge myself to give you any other opinions about your circumstance. I hope you are able to find someone to help you.
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