Jana, nice work. And Goose - nice work!
This is something that I just have to reply to (Shakespeare gets me going everytime

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Originally Posted by shuggymac1
then again-shakespeare would put a lot of people off their love of language.
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Why would you say Shakespeare would put a lot of people off their love of language?

He was a genius with words, and he played with them in a very clever manner to create something very unique.
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In fact there is no proof that he ever existed
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There is proof that he existed. Parts of his life have been documented (marriage for example). Obviously, also all his works that we have today (altho I must admit none of the original manuscripts have survived to this day

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did exist. Now, as to whether 'Shakespeare' was just one man, a group of writers (Ben Jonson et al.), a pseudonym... That we might never know, and to be honest, that I don't think is essential in analysing/appreciating his works.
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and if he did, he copied contempory stories of the time, and adapted them to his own purposes.
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Yes. You must remember Shakespeare was above all a playwright. Also an actor and a poet, but above all a playwright. He did not write his plays thinking that he is creating the greatest literature ever written in English, and he did not write 'great classic literature'. That is our interpretation of the texts, 450 years later (and admittedly, during the 450 years aswell). What he wrote were plays. (Also sonnets, as I said, he was also a poet) Plays to be performed to people in theatre. Comedy, tragedy, fantasy. And plays reflect the stories and conventions of the time. And Shakespeare did not just rewrite the contemporary stories of that time, he created something new. Why else would his plays be banned to be played inside London, forcing the theatre to be moved outside the city borders? If he was just rewriting what everyone were writing/doing at that time, this wouldn't have happened.
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Linguistuc experts on shakespeare these days admit that he ripped off other peoples work, because not one of his plays is similar in language etc
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There are thousands and thousands of books published on Shakespeare. The linguists do not agree on the point you are making, the debate carries on and is alive and kickin'. It's not fair to say that he ripped off people's work. He might have used them as a basis for his inspiration, and used some of the language, but it has also been shown that Shakespeare used his language in a very versatile, clever and innovative way. As to 'not one of his plays is similar in language etc'... His plays do carry some similarities in which they are written. He uses a lot of puns, plays with words, uses words in ways they had not been used prior to him. There are similarities to be found in his plays. True, also differences. And this can of course be interpreted in two ways - either, he is a genius with words, not sticking to one style of writing (as he didn't stick to one type of plays) or it's a group of people with distinct styles of writing (but also cooperating in a lot of plays). I think it's needless to say which one I believe is true

Altho the great thing about Shakespeare is you can just leave this question unanswered and enjoy the genious pen that put all these plays and sonnets on paper for us to read.
Ok. And that was just about Shakespaere the playwright. I could go on and on about Shakespeare the poet (because I find his sonnets to be even more genious than his plays, and that is said a lot) but I don't think I will just now

We can continue the Shakespeare debate if you wish to. I'm up for it
