europeans:Do you support the idea of afuture European Union?

ponrauil · #21 11-23-2003, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose

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If it's that easy to check illegal immigrants, why can't Britain do it by herself?

doesnt help when the french built a bloody great refugee camp about as close to Dover as they can..

Ok first that camp has been closed down.

Second, refugees that were taken to that camp were most of the time caught trying to get on a boat to England. Should France have put them in jail or built that camp in the Alpes?

Third, they were kept so France could CHECK THEM and until a decent and legal solution could be found for them either in France, England or their homeland.

Four, the number of refugees in that camp hardly reached 0,1% of legal immigrants in France, which is about 6 million foreigners, that's 10% of our population. I don't think France has any lesson to take from Great-Britain on immigration.

Ponrauil

Mike · #22 11-23-2003, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose

I know, lets come up with a "government" so we can take all the power away from a country, and make decisions in Brussels that have got **** ALL TO DO WITH THEM, and with people that have **** all in common with us. Lets undo thousands of years of heritage just because the French and Germans dont like having an economy that cant rival America's...

Goose - u missed the point of the question. Do u like the IDEA of a European Union.

On our own, we'll be laughed at. Our economy will eventually suck. Our military will. & we'll have to keep sucking up to America.

Goose = Conversative = Resistant to change.

Mike · #23 11-23-2003, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shuggymac1

I think that "Ponruail" is in the famous "Krb" words not very bright-why do you think that you are european just because you live in French Speaking Quebec? does not make sense-are Australians, Americans and South africans european too? based on your logic they are.
You are Canadian, so stop pretending otherwise.
Europe has borders with non European countries, but countries like france I detest (the people are weak willed led by very unintelligent leaders.
why does france-not Germany -have the biggest fascist/nazi support of right wing groups in Europe?
why did the French National front get 17% of the electorate vote last year and even more surprisngly how did Le Pen get to run off against Chirac last year in the French presidential campaign?
it is simple-the french for years have never sent or made any checks on illegal immigrants trying to get into Britain. indeed it was comon knowledge that foreign smuggling gangs were able to operate in impunity due to the failure of the french immigration and police force to take action.
as long as the illegals left France and went to Britain that was not their problem!!!!!!
The french as a nation are anti british and as a result we brits hate their nation with a passion. I have nothing against illegal immigrants here -it is their stories of months of misery living in France and trying to get to the UK in desparate ways that i feel sorry for.
European law states that an illegal immigrant escaping from war, famine and bigotry and rascism must report themselves to the first free European safe haven and be treated there. France ignores this ruling.
we saved their asses twice in the first and second world war, but what thanks do we get?
the french were a nation that are complicited in the murder of thousands of jews, their french resistance network never numbered more than a 100,000 people in the course of the second world war.
personally I ownly have respect for those resistance french heroes, the rest are beneath contempt.
A united europe will never happen.

I have read your views on many matters Shuggy - & they are very much in line with the BNP. Which makes u something of a hypocrit in what you say above.

Also - your hatred towards the French makes you someone that is hard to take seriously.

jess · #24 11-23-2003, 02:35 PM

shuggymac1 IS THE specialist in anything about France !
So Ponrauil you're not french anymore ?

Shuggy your hate for french is really impressive, it's disturbing to see we have someone on the site who could be Le Pen's brother. If someone is facist here, it's you.

jess · #25 11-23-2003, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose

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If it's that easy to check illegal immigrants, why can't Britain do it by herself?

doesnt help when the french built a bloody great refugee camp about as close to Dover as they can..

What was the solution then ?

Mike · #26 11-23-2003, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jess

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Originally Posted by Mongoose

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If it's that easy to check illegal immigrants, why can't Britain do it by herself?

doesnt help when the french built a bloody great refugee camp about as close to Dover as they can..

What was the solution then ?

I don't think he's actually THOUGHT about these issues Jess. Just jumping on the 'its all about our sovereignty' bandwagon.

jess · #27 11-23-2003, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

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Originally Posted by jess

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Originally Posted by Mongoose

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If it's that easy to check illegal immigrants, why can't Britain do it by herself?

doesnt help when the french built a bloody great refugee camp about as close to Dover as they can..

What was the solution then ?

I don't think he's actually THOUGHT about these issues Jess. Just jumping on the 'its all about our sovereignty' bandwagon.

I know I know .....

Keeper · #28 11-23-2003, 03:14 PM

I'm all for the EU!!!!

Together we're stronger

And it's really nice to be able to travell aroud Europe freely and being able to work in any European country you want to!

Bendpulloffhammer · #29 11-23-2003, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SpainSambora

Tell me if I´m wrong: Do you feel you are french?

/And a world union...pretty but impossible in these moments/

NO

I am very happy when I am outside my country..France is boring

SpainSambora · #30 11-23-2003, 06:46 PM

Mongoose, I suppose it. English have a big egocentrism

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