I don't believe in god in the religious sense.

I've explained my theory on it before and to do it in full it takes a while so i should really save it somewhere so i can just copy and paste iot but anyways...

I spent a good deal of time in my latter half of high school doing philosophy and one of the main subjects was creation/ God's exisetence and IMO even the "fundamental" (if that's the way to put it) philosophical arguments for God's existance go nowhere near to proving it.

A being of which none greater can be conceieved therefore it must exist? bollocks. i could imagine a sandwhich of which none greater can be concieved. doesn't mean it exists.

the creation / watch argument doesn't hold true for me either. In theory if you're walkign through a desert ull of sand, a very basic thing and came across a timepiece and you could see it's mechanisms working etc... you'd know it was made by a man therefore because the world is so complex it must be made by something else which again is just a case of saying we don't know this so it must be God. Too much chaos in the world and for every human eye or heart there's a million incredibly basic things that science has proved how it came to be.

and the causation theory in that evrything has a cause and we must have a 1st cause so that 1st cause is God again is putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 because that's what you want it to come too.

even descartes who I regard as great copped out at the end of his meditiations and came out something along the lines of God exists because he must.


so for me philosophy can explain a whole lot but not this because we're never going to prove (or disprove) God's existence through rationalism.

Religion wise my parents are Protestant but don't follow it too closely and I believe for the most part their ideas on morality but I would without that influence either.

One thing I totally disagree with is the heirarchy and abuse of position that most organised religions used. As I posted someone elses comments in the Pope thread. i think it's pretty blasphemous to say the least to install a human on earth as our go between with us and the big man.

anyways my idea on god is faith. god does not e3xist physically and he can't create mountains or send swarms of locusts to whoop our ass when he gets bored and on the same hand, he isn't personally responsible for wars and people flyign planes into buildings in his name. it's the religion and the twisting of it that is. but anyways, if you believe in god then god exists to you personally but only in your head and what you want God to be able to do or not do is pretty much what God is capable of as it's you who believes it.

as i said, i don't think god can do jack shit in the physical world but if someone else believes that he made the tsunami to punish us or whatnot then so be it.

and as i said, it's when you start getting it twisted (by the heirarchy might i point out) that we do get wars as a result but not because of God.

as far as how do i live my life? I'd like to think I'm a good person. I'm not going to win a knighthood anytime soon i can be a total cunt at the best of times but for the most part i think people would say i'm a decent guy with a fair set of morals and that's more to do with how I've been brought up with my parents, the friends I have and my environment as opposed to the Bible or church.


Good questiosn btw mate.

ps. as far as the butterfly thing n allt hat goes on. I think thats ome things just happen purely by chance no matter how unrealistic that seems. how many million butterflies is there? how many billion have ever existed? sooner or later you're goign to get one with elvis' head on it really.

I just think some things happen both in nature and in the world we experience hence why im pretty apathetic with regards to alot of issues and think trying to change things is a waste of time.