Jovitalk - Bon Jovi Fan Community
Home Register Members FAQ
 

Fuel Protest

NBJ - Everything Else


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 11-12-2007, 10:44 AM
UKjovi's Avatar
UKjovi UKjovi is offline
Cut myself on angel hair
Slippery When Wet
 
Join Date: 17 Jun 2003
Location: UK
Age: 53
Gender: male
Posts: 24,461
Send a message via MSN to UKjovi
Default Fuel Protest

Do you think another fuel protest will do any good? Ive heard alot about this recently what with the prices going above £1 a litre . Ive noticed that its affecting the prices of everything including food as retailers are having to cover the extra costs. Ive seen a few ideas like this one http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...-fuel-protest/
But do you think it will make any difference ? I know its hitting our business hard as people are less inclined to repair their car when its costing them so much to run. So for me personnaly i'd like to see the prices drop by 20p at least . What do you think?
__________________
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old 11-12-2007, 10:58 AM
(Don't)Lie_to_me's Avatar
(Don't)Lie_to_me (Don't)Lie_to_me is offline
Senior Member
It's my post
 
Join Date: 31 Dec 2006
Location: UK
Age: 41
Gender: male
Posts: 4,651
Default

Well I get the fuel paid for in one car (the GCHQ company car), and the other is a 60mpg SMART so I don't really notice.

Although...i would like the government to tax high CO2 vehicles more (I don't care about climate change but what else could they tax?) and lower fuel duty. If a protest can make fuel cheaper, but allow for the government to still get the same income (lower duty = billions lost for the gov) then go ahead
__________________
If some c*nt can **** something up, that c*nt will pick the worst possible time to ****ing **** it up, 'cause that c*nt's a c*nt.

Work, work, work for the workin' man!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-12-2007, 07:21 PM
Dawn's Avatar
Dawn Dawn is offline
Senior Member
I Don't Want To Post Forever
 
Join Date: 29 Jul 2002
Location: ENGLAND
Gender: female
Posts: 11,895
Default

Im surprised there hasnt been a protest as the last protest the fuel was cheaper than it is now. I want the cost to drop , I know its expensive everywhere , but its a joke here compared to other countries.

Dawn
__________________
BON JOVI 30 DAY SONG CHALLENGE

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bon-Jo...41182859285688

JOVITALK LIVING ON A PRAYER VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkHD8FJtJQ4

Dry County 8th June 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB3Yi...eature=related

ALL I NEED IS YOU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-UDWk6e_aE
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-12-2007, 07:28 PM
Thomas Anderson's Avatar
Thomas Anderson Thomas Anderson is offline
Friends will be friends
Bounce
 
Join Date: 15 Aug 2002
Location: Merseyside, England
Age: 36
Gender: male
Posts: 30,116
Default

I don't drive, so it doesn't affect me directly (though, as mentioned the cost carries forward to consumers on the cost of other goods) but am I the only one who thinks that we should find a good alternative for fuel for cars? There is only a limited ammount of oil left and regardless of whose figures you read, chances are there won't be any left by the end of this century - and I think we'd do better to not just burn it up by driving around, because we rely so much on plastics now, so when it's gone and we've recycled everything to death then there'll be a problem.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-12-2007, 08:15 PM
Sara Sara is offline
Senior Member
These Days
 
Join Date: 29 Jul 2002
Location: Amsterdam
Age: 38
Gender: female
Posts: 2,530
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UKjovi View Post
Do you think another fuel protest will do any good? Ive heard alot about this recently what with the prices going above £1 a litre . Ive noticed that its affecting the prices of everything including food as retailers are having to cover the extra costs. Ive seen a few ideas like this one http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...-fuel-protest/
But do you think it will make any difference ? I know its hitting our business hard as people are less inclined to repair their car when its costing them so much to run. So for me personnaly i'd like to see the prices drop by 20p at least . What do you think?
I don't think protesting will make any difference. People generally just need their car when they have one - I know very little people (if not none) that decide to leave their car and take the bus because of the high fuel prices. And in the end we sort of get used to the higher fuel prices over time anyway. I think the fuel is just over €1.50 per litre here now (£1.05...) - I remember people were shocked when prices just hit €1.40 (£0.98...) - now that just seems cheap.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawn View Post
I know its expensive everywhere , but its a joke here compared to other countries.
Lol you should come to The Netherlands - like I said £1 is cheap or go to Turkey for that matter - over there you easily pay £1.15 per litre... But it's not like the Turks don't drive their cars because of the insane fuel prices. Whatever governments charge for fuel taxes - people will always drive.

Last edited by Sara; 11-12-2007 at 08:21 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-12-2007, 08:29 PM
TheseDays2005 TheseDays2005 is offline
Senior Member
Just posting
 
Join Date: 13 Jul 2005
Location: behind a pc, somewhere
Age: 41
Gender: male
Posts: 5,141
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sara View Post
I


Lol you should come to The Netherlands - like I said £1 is cheap or go to Turkey for that matter - over there you easily pay £1.15 per litre... But it's not like the Turks don't drive their cars because of the insane fuel prices. Whatever governments charge for fuel taxes - people will always drive.
yeah prizes in Holland are expensiver and stil rising.

If you ride diesel you can let it run on just flued oil wich you can buy at just a normal supermarket. Lots of folks are doing that here and it shouldn't do any harm to your car.
I did it for a year or so, not driving diesel anymore.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-12-2007, 11:50 PM
(Don't)Lie_to_me's Avatar
(Don't)Lie_to_me (Don't)Lie_to_me is offline
Senior Member
It's my post
 
Join Date: 31 Dec 2006
Location: UK
Age: 41
Gender: male
Posts: 4,651
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas Anderson View Post
I don't drive, so it doesn't affect me directly (though, as mentioned the cost carries forward to consumers on the cost of other goods) but am I the only one who thinks that we should find a good alternative for fuel for cars? There is only a limited ammount of oil left and regardless of whose figures you read, chances are there won't be any left by the end of this century - and I think we'd do better to not just burn it up by driving around, because we rely so much on plastics now, so when it's gone and we've recycled everything to death then there'll be a problem.
Hydrogen Fuel Cells. You fill up with Hydrogen which is used to generate electricity to power the car. Honda is rleasing such a thing in 2008, about 7-8 years ahead of the development schedule. It'll cost 35k I think, and there is no infrastructure, like Hydrogen pumps.

2020 before anything really happens IMO
__________________
If some c*nt can **** something up, that c*nt will pick the worst possible time to ****ing **** it up, 'cause that c*nt's a c*nt.

Work, work, work for the workin' man!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-13-2007, 12:35 AM
Thomas Anderson's Avatar
Thomas Anderson Thomas Anderson is offline
Friends will be friends
Bounce
 
Join Date: 15 Aug 2002
Location: Merseyside, England
Age: 36
Gender: male
Posts: 30,116
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by (Don't)Lie_to_me View Post
Hydrogen Fuel Cells. You fill up with Hydrogen which is used to generate electricity to power the car. Honda is rleasing such a thing in 2008, about 7-8 years ahead of the development schedule. It'll cost 35k I think, and there is no infrastructure, like Hydrogen pumps.

2020 before anything really happens IMO
I know nothing of the technology behind anything like that, but surely if they can be run on hydrogen then technically couldn't they be run on water, with only oxygen as waste? Or (presumably) is there not enough hydrogen in water to do that? (I'm really cluless here - chemistry was never my favourite in science)
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-13-2007, 12:57 AM
(Don't)Lie_to_me's Avatar
(Don't)Lie_to_me (Don't)Lie_to_me is offline
Senior Member
It's my post
 
Join Date: 31 Dec 2006
Location: UK
Age: 41
Gender: male
Posts: 4,651
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas Anderson View Post
I know nothing of the technology behind anything like that, but surely if they can be run on hydrogen then technically couldn't they be run on water, with only oxygen as waste? Or (presumably) is there not enough hydrogen in water to do that? (I'm really cluless here - chemistry was never my favourite in science)
Nah, they have to use pure Hydrogen. Hydrogen and oxygen are used to generate electricity by electrolysis and catalysis (wiki it if u want ) and the only emission through the exhaust is water.
__________________
If some c*nt can **** something up, that c*nt will pick the worst possible time to ****ing **** it up, 'cause that c*nt's a c*nt.

Work, work, work for the workin' man!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-13-2007, 01:33 AM
Mongoose's Avatar
Mongoose Mongoose is offline
PLAY KING OF THE MOUNTAIN...
I Don't Want To Post Forever
 
Join Date: 30 Jul 2002
Location: Sheffield
Age: 38
Gender: male
Posts: 13,330
Default

You work for GCHQ? Have you not heard of persec? Not the kind of thing I'd be advertising O.o
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 03:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11.
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.