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Old 11-27-2005, 12:44 AM
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Btw, you're very funny when you're serious.
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:08 AM
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Just trying to keep up with your great pace as such a bright man.

Btw, you're very funny when you're serious.
Uh huh, very good. Well, at least we all know how gulable you are.


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Just like the Ferns Report (which btw supports the idea of sexdriven sexual abuse) is about general child sexual abuse and not just paedophilia.
Wrong. They address child sex abuse but that report is primarily focused on the sexual abuse that took place in the diocise of Ferns over the past 30 years at the hands of the catholic church.

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Just look at the current paedophilia cases that are going on in France, the ones that have in Belgium, there are as many men as women involved, and they're all in their 30's or 40's.
Wow. Yeah those two cases totally prove your point. How about actually reading The Ferns Report and you'll see in those cases the abusers were all men (obviously) and most were over fourty.

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Even if these stats I gave include statutory rape, the reality of things seems to confirm them more then your generalities, which you have yet to back up efficiently.


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That means those stats are completely usless when talking about paedophilia.
All I'm basing my assertions on is info I've come across, I never claimed it was absolute fact, that's why I opened this discussion to see what people think is the reason behind what makes a person develop this condition, but you were clearly too immature to carry on such a discussion.
I'm sure the info is on the web somewhere, I already gave you a link to a site that talks of that, and yeah I could search around for hours looking for stats, but honestly, I have far better things to be doing, and I don't have to feed my ego, unlike some here. If you don't believe what I'm saying, well whatever. If you really want find stats, search through these sites, I'm sure you'll find some stuff.

http://www.academy-group.com/

http://www.fbi.gov

Also, track down documentaries with The Academy Group where they talk extensively at times about paedophilia. Watch a program called FBI Files on The Discovery Channel, where you'll see plenty of such cases.

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Old 11-27-2005, 03:45 AM
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They address child sex abuse but that report is primarily focused on the sexual abuse that took place in the diocise of Ferns over the past 30 years at the hands of the catholic church.............. How about actually reading The Ferns Report and you'll see in those cases the abusers were all men (obviously) and most were over fourty.
So, explain to me how the Ferns report sheds light on the issue of pedophilia as a whole? The report deals exclusively with the sexual abuse against catholic priests - unless you think that sexual abuse and pedophilia only exists between boys and catholic priests, the report is rather useless as a blanket statement.




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That means those stats are completely usless when talking about paedophilia.
actually those stats are a lot more useful than the ferns report as the stats do not focus on a niche of pedophiles. Statutory rape is not reported enough to scew the statistics in this case.


Sorry Phil, but apparently you are unable to support your views - both verbally and via references.

I've posted a link, Ponrauil posted stats. You post the fbi website??? I am sure you realize that referencing the homepage of the fbi on a uni paper, would not suffice as an actual reference?

Since you keep saying that you merely wanted to discuss the issue, I don't understand why you are getting so upset about the fact that your theories do neither make sense, nor seem to be able to be supported by any published report.

As far as the immaturity issue, you might want to backtrack and see who was the first to start the silliness.
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Watch a program called FBI Files on The Discovery Channel, where you'll see plenty of such cases.
Unfortunately, all I have to do is turn on the news
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Uh huh, very good. Well, at least we all know how gulable you are.
If we all know that (generalizing again?), it must be true.


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Wrong. They address child sex abuse but that report is primarily focused on the sexual abuse that took place in the diocise of Ferns over the past 30 years at the hands of the catholic church.
The cases they bring up yes. The definitions they give of child sexual abuse, how it happens, and who can a perpetrator be, etc, are very much general.


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Yeah those two cases totally prove your point. How about actually reading The Ferns Report and you'll see in those cases the abusers were all men (obviously) and most were over fourty.
If you know the Ferns Report cases were all obviously men because they were priests, why generalize it?
And why bring down people giving you concrete examples that such a generalization is misguiding?


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All I'm basing my assertions on is info I've come across, I never claimed it was absolute fact, that's why I opened this discussion to see what people think is the reason behind what makes a person develop this condition but you were clearly too immature to carry on such a discussion.
That's why if you scroll by a couple of pages you'll find posts of you, me and Russ dicussing it. (with you and me actually agreeing)

I just mentioned your generalization about how paedophiles are always old men was wrong, brought you some clear evidence, including a current fact, and you, the mature one, couldn't take it.
I never did that, nore any other post, for my ego, because I couldn't care less what people on a message board may think of me.
Such a generalization is misguiding (like the other one you almost did without meaning it about paedophiles going after boys only) and I don't like leaving what is misguiding undisputed.


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Glitter has applied for bail...... like if he gets it he wil remain there, he is going to disappear to Brazil or something, I hope he doesnt get it.

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