Gary Glitter

Totaly agree with you there Tash. these "Do gooders" always forget those who have been harmed by such monsters . Also it might i say might put off some of those who want to do such crimes like this if there were the death penlty . I think alot of them are cowards anyway. it seems as though Gary is so it might have detered him?

In this specific case I do think that the”hanging” alternative is absolutely wrong. But, I still don’t consider it to be a democratically thing to kill another person. Too kill someone just because they have done something wrong, or in this case terrible, is what dictators do in undeveloped countries with no law nor personal rights. It doesn’t fit the ideal if democracy, at least not to me.

He is not dead, he just has his sexdrive taken from him and I would only propose it to convicted child molesters. You know the ones that leave their DNA in a 5 year olds vagina!

I wouldn't kill them and a prison sentence is meaningless. They will get out and when they do, they will offend again, just this time they make sure there is no witness to tell about how he crushed the little girls jaws before he suffocated her. They will leave them dead in the desert or woods, they bury them ALIVE in containers while they hear the people searching for the girl. They get out, get the urge and kill the mother and her boyfriend and big brother and take the little girl and boy with them to abuse sexually for weeks before the boy dies and he keeps the girls.

I have no patience and no sympathy for sex offenders on children. I do not care about their rights or ethics or morality or how a civilized country treats their criminals. Sex offenders are a different breed and no sentence is harsh enough! Though, castratian would make their perversion pointless and I don't understand why that isn't done. I don't understand why a society would embrace the death penalty before castratian

I don't think child molesters can be 'deterred'. It's a sickness and the individual doesn't do it 'consciesly'. Kind of like seriel killers - the death sentence doesn't seem to deter anybody from killing others either....

How about a compromise, let's just hang them by their balls.

I thought about castration origionally, but even if that was done you could never let the person back out into society because his frustration at not being able to do what he wants to do to these kids could turn that frustration to anger and he could kill the child instead of just molesting/raping them.
Then again, not all paedophiles rape their victims. Many "just" molest them and get their kicks that way.

Those ****ing do-gooders like Allwyn are pathetic. The sympathy goes to the criminal, not the innocent young victim? Ugh. These cases are cut and dry. DNA evidence proves without a doubt the person is gulity so there is ABSOLUTELY NO ROOM FOR DOUBT.

Putting somebody in jail "for life", is never for the rest of their lives. A life sentence in Ireland is around 15 years out in 10. I know America have the right idea of life inprisionment but there is always the chance the person can escape and sooner or later he will be back into society and as I said before, there should never, ever be any chance of these animals getting back into society, hence the only way to protect our kids is to kill these people, and that's what makes us better then murders, terrorist and folks like that.


Phil

I totally agree. Castratian would work for me too. It's just that prison just doesn't work - not for them. It doesn't deter and they do it again when and if they come out.

This shows how mature you are. I don't think Allwyn just talks about child abusers, he is talking in general.

And as Spunky said, it's a sickness. The death penalty won't do any good, it's not like it is scares other child abusers to not commit these crimes.

There was a case a few years ago . a peadophile said to the prison warden, if you let me out i will commit these crimes again i cant help it please donmt let me out . So what did the prison warden do? let him out of course . within 2 weeks he had abused a little girl .Now she has to live with that for the rest of her life .If they had just shot him or what ever then theres no way he would have been released back into society and that girl would have been saved . Same goes for Gary Glitter ,Had he been destroyed then that 12 year old wouldnt have suffered at his hands .So how can anyone justify keeping them alive? What would you do with a dog that doesnt stop attacking people? you put it to sleep so do the same thing with peadophiles

Actually, what you do with a dog that keeps having sex with others, is to neuter them. It takes their sex drive away and they live happily ever after not impregnating other females.



They molest them to get a sexual gratification. If they have no more sex drive, there is no urge to molest. Pedophiles do not kill/rape children because they are mad at society, but because they have this larger than life urge to fullfill their perverted sexual fantasies.

I thought you were all up on the psychology part of things????

Allwyn is not pathetic, and as Erik pointed out, he was talking in general.

I never said they molest/abuse because they are mad at society, they are physcologically ****ed up, and this is the behaviour they manifest as a result, it's a part of who they are. Take away their sex drive and they will still feel a need to be with little boys. They don't have sex with them just because they feel attraction, there's way more to it then that, so simply taking away their sex drive dose not take away the danger. Paedophiles who molest little boys will still do it regardless of whether they have a sex drive or not and the ones who have this massive internal desire to be with little boys but cannot satisfy those needs will most likely take their anger out on their victim, so instead of raping them, they will kill them out of thier anger at not being recieve their normal and desired gratification. So actually castration, would not only not work, it would only highten the level of danger to society.

If you've ever done any research into crimional profiling, you'll find many cases of rapists who have killed their intended victims because they were unable to perform sexually, and they took that anger out on the woman. So I'll say it again, taking away a peadophile's sex drive dose not in any way take away their danger to society. The only way to remove that danger once and for all, and be sure no child will have to suffer at their hands is to kill them, nothing else will work more effectively at protecting the children.

And I was replying in general. I don't care if you're talking about murders, rapists or paedophiles, anybody who shows sympathy towards a proven guilty party, and in a way takes their side, over an innocent victim is pathetic in my opinion. The law is pathetic too because it protects the guilty and leaves the innocent vunerable.


Phil