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Old 03-06-2004, 03:16 PM
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Gibraltar is British and should stay British for the simple reason that the people want to remain British.

The same goes for the Falklands. It may offend you or be a delicate subject but it's true.
I don't know about the Falklands inhabitants, but the what the people in Gibraltar really want is independence!
They held a referendum which majorly supported remaining part of Britain.
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Old 03-06-2004, 03:20 PM
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Do you really see them as you would any average Britich citizen? Or are they sort of second-class? I've always been intrigued by this.

Their English in any case is... well not Shakespeare's language at its best :P
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Old 03-06-2004, 03:29 PM
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Gibraltar is British just the same as the Shetlands and Channel Islands are.

Every single person I know who's been to Gibraltar including my parent's say you wouldn't know you were abroad if it wasn;t for the weather because the people and culture is so British.
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Okay then, I just thought you maye look at them over your shoulder, that's all
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Nope not at all.

We're all Brits here.
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First, Shuggymac, please....leave us in peace. I think you´re really bored.

Second, some facts.


Gibraltar is a colony. Malvinas Islands (sorry, Falkland..ahem) too

http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/decolonization/main.htm

The United Nations and Decolonization

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More than 80 nations whose peoples were formerly under colonial rule have joined the United Nations as sovereign independent States since the world Organization was founded in 1945. Additionally, many other Territories have achieved self-determination through political association with other independent States or through integration with other States. The United Nations has played a crucial role in that historic change.

Today, there are still 16 Non-Self-Governing Territories remaining. These are: American Samoa, Anguilla, Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Falkland Islands (Malvinas), Gibraltar, Guam, Montserrat, New Caledonia, Pitcairn, St. Helena, Tokelau, Turks and Caicos Islands, United States Virgin Islands, and Western Sahara.


More information about Gibraltar (by UN)

C. Action by the General Assembly


53. At its 83rd plenary meeting, on 8 December 2000 (see A/55/PV.83), the General Assembly, on the recommendation of the Special Political and Decolonization Committee (Fourth Committee), adopted decision 55/427 without a vote. The decision read as follows:
“The General Assembly, recalling its decision 54/423 of 6 December 1999, and recalling at the same time that the statement agreed to by the Governments of Spain and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland at Brussels on 27 November 1984 stipulates, inter alia, the following:
‘The establishment of a negotiating process aimed at overcoming all the differences between them over Gibraltar and at promoting cooperation on a mutually beneficial basis on economic, cultural, touristic, aviation, military and environmental matters. Both sides accept that the issues of sovereignty will be discussed in that process. The British Government will fully maintain its commitment to honour the wishes of the people of Gibraltar as set out in the preamble of the 1969 Constitution’,
“Takes note of the fact that, as part of this process, the Ministers for Foreign Affairs of Spain and of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland hold annual meetings alternately in each capital, the most recent of which was held in London on 10 December 1997, and urges both Governments to continue their negotiations with the object of reaching a definitive solution to the problem of Gibraltar in the light of relevant resolutions of the General Assembly and in the spirit of the Charter of the United Nations.”


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So, its a fact that Gibraltar is a colony. I dont care if they are british or what they are. I dont care if they want to be independent. But its sad, very sad, the situation of Gibraltar these days. The last colony in Europe. In the European Union...
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Madrid capital of Spain has never removed any of generalissmo Franco's statues in the public areas where they were erected? why?
What are the spanish people afraid of?

Tell me where there is a statue of Franco in Madrid and I´ll erecte a statue of you. PESADO
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Gibraltar is British and should stay British for the simple reason that the people want to remain British.

The same goes for the Falklands. It may offend you or be a delicate subject but it's true.
Jim, to be honest, this is a subject I'll never understand...I've had lots of discussions with different people, including English, and even they didn't know the true facts. I don't want to start a debate on this...I'm sorry.
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Old 03-07-2004, 05:14 PM
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It's about national pride and identity.

Imagine somewhere decides it has a calim to the channel islands....

the channel's want to stay British and we want to keep our island.
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