Jovitalk - Bon Jovi Fan Community
Home Register Members FAQ
 

glazer's man united takeover

NBJ - Everything Else


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 05-16-2005, 03:06 PM
Jim Bon Jovi Jim Bon Jovi is offline
Senior Member
Crush
 
Join Date: 31 Jul 2002
Location: In my secret bunker hiding from the invasion
Age: 37
Gender: male
Posts: 22,444
Send a message via MSN to Jim Bon Jovi
Default glazer's man united takeover

so what do you think of this debacle?

Chelsea haven't done too bad having a really rich dude at the helm.

You've got to wonder about the business sense of a guy who from what i gather has no clue about football never mind the club he's buying, can't run a fake (american) football club for shit and has plunged one of the worlds biggest clubs with regards to turnover into major debt overnight.

there's much easier and less risky ways to launder and get a return on money than football clubs.

a mate reckons he'll make the money back selling his american football teams merch over here and man u's gear in the states if people are talking about throwing away season tickets and boycotting united's merchandise I can't see them running out in hordes to buy crap from this guys other teams.
__________________
the dude abides
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old 05-16-2005, 03:13 PM
Teemu's Avatar
Teemu Teemu is offline
Senior Member
Jovi Addict
 
Join Date: 27 Aug 2002
Location: Finland
Posts: 545
Default

The biggest difference between Glazer and Abramovich is that Glazer has to loan the money to buy United, so he doesn't have the same financial power as Abramovich does. So I am 100% sure that we are not going to see Man Utd spending money on players like Chelsea did.

Teemu
__________________
There's a crazy mirror showing us both in 5-D,
I'm laughing at you you're laughing at me,
There's a room of shadows that gets so dark brother,
It's easy for two people to lose each other in this tunnel of love
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-16-2005, 03:41 PM
Kev's Avatar
Kev Kev is offline
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
Posting Dead Or Alive
 
Join Date: 04 Dec 2002
Location: Liverpool, England, UK
Age: 38
Gender: male
Posts: 33,788
Default

Glazer isnt rich at all imo. He is in millions of pounds worth of debt, and there is really nothing that the manchester united fans can now do. Protests at saturdays cup final will be pointless, as he already owns 75% stake in the club and no-one can exactly take that away from him.

Manchester United are going to end up exactly like Leeds United. Once taken off the stock exchange, he will have full ownership of the club and the entire enterprise will be riden in debt. Glazer doesnt care about football. He doesnt care about the team, he just believes it is a great business venture that will earn him more millions. Im afraid to say, I think its a huge mistake. I am counting down the days now untill we see United in the lower leagues. I can honestly say I dont want this to happen, but its just the general direction that the club is now going.

The remaining shareholders may get annoyed and react angrily, but if the 'so-called-fans' were THAT concerned about the club and 'so' against this takeover, then they wouldnt have sold their shares to Glazer in the first place. United fans only have themselves to blame IMO.
__________________
2000: Stoke. 2001: Huddersfield, Cardiff. 2002: London. 2003: Glasgow, Wolverhampton, Manchester, London.
2006: Dusseldorf, Glasgow, Manchester, Coventry, Southampton, MK x2, Hull, NJ x3.
2007: London JBJ Q&A, London, NJ x3. 2008: Dublin, Manchester, Coventry, Bristol, London x2.
2010: NJ x3, London x4. 2011: Munich, Manchester, London, Dublin x2, Lisbon. 2012: RS London.
2013: Manchester, Birmingham, Dublin, London. 2014: RS Belfast. 2016: London. 2019: Dublin x2, Liverpool, London

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-16-2005, 04:28 PM
RichieW2001's Avatar
RichieW2001 RichieW2001 is offline
Senior Member
Midnight on JoviTalk
 
Join Date: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Manchester (for good)
Posts: 10,370
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
Glazer isnt rich at all imo.
he put in £272million of his own money...he is rich.

like teemu mentioned though, there isn't going to be a massive investment in the club at a squad level but glazer's takeover may shake up the 'business' side of the outfit. it's still to be seen, however, whether the FA or UEFA approve of a club carrying so much debt. i dare say they'll make an exception as it's man utd and they'll escape punishment.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-16-2005, 04:44 PM
Kev's Avatar
Kev Kev is offline
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
Posting Dead Or Alive
 
Join Date: 04 Dec 2002
Location: Liverpool, England, UK
Age: 38
Gender: male
Posts: 33,788
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichieW2001
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
Glazer isnt rich at all imo.
he put in £272million of his own money...he is rich..
That is true Richie, but what about all the other hundreds millions of pounds that he has had to borrow to secure his stake in the club? Glazer may have a lot of money in potentially sound investments, but he still owes a hell of a lot back! And he wont be able to do that until the team starts to perform on the pitch, which means a further investment and by giving Sir Alex Ferguson a large transfer kitty to spend in the summer to strengthen his squad. Fans who disaprove of this takeover are already starting to boycot the clubs megastore which is resulting in a huge loss.
__________________
2000: Stoke. 2001: Huddersfield, Cardiff. 2002: London. 2003: Glasgow, Wolverhampton, Manchester, London.
2006: Dusseldorf, Glasgow, Manchester, Coventry, Southampton, MK x2, Hull, NJ x3.
2007: London JBJ Q&A, London, NJ x3. 2008: Dublin, Manchester, Coventry, Bristol, London x2.
2010: NJ x3, London x4. 2011: Munich, Manchester, London, Dublin x2, Lisbon. 2012: RS London.
2013: Manchester, Birmingham, Dublin, London. 2014: RS Belfast. 2016: London. 2019: Dublin x2, Liverpool, London

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-16-2005, 05:34 PM
daveyboy's Avatar
daveyboy daveyboy is offline
Senior Member
Keep the Faith
 
Join Date: 30 Jul 2002
Posts: 871
Default

My team, Brentford, is currently upwards of just £7m in debt, and we are in real danger of going out of business, but do any premiershite fans give a toss? Nope! Man U can go to the wall as far as i'm concerned!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-16-2005, 05:50 PM
allmike's Avatar
allmike allmike is offline
Senior Member
I Don't Want To Post Forever
 
Join Date: 04 Dec 2002
Location: india, now in Dubai
Age: 45
Gender: male
Posts: 13,407
Send a message via MSN to allmike Send a message via Yahoo to allmike
Default

This really blunder IMO... Its going to hurt Man United big time, its sad that all the share holder have to sell there stock to him... and he doesn't even know what is football(real)...
__________________
I wish I was a neutron bomb, for once I could go off
I wish I was a sacrifice but somehow still lived on
I wish I was a sentimental ornament you hung on
The Christmas tree, I wish I was the star that went on top
I wish I was the evidence, I wish I was the grounds
For 50 million hands upraised and open toward the sky
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-16-2005, 09:23 PM
Neurotica80 Neurotica80 is offline
Senior Member
Last Man Standing
 
Join Date: 30 Nov 2002
Age: 41
Gender: female
Posts: 26,849
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by daveyboy
My team, Brentford, is currently upwards of just £7m in debt, and we are in real danger of going out of business, but do any premiershite fans give a toss? Nope! Man U can go to the wall as far as i'm concerned!
Same here, I think Man U fans are getting into a state about nothing, they are far too rich to ever go broke. The situation at Leeds was totally different, they didnt have the worldwide income Man U have, plus they will finish in the Champions leage every season which generates massive income. Like Daveyboy says think of the clubs like Cardiff, Brentford, etc who live hand to mouth just to survive.

Also fans who protest against this move at the cup final on Saturday are pathetic IMO and will ruin a great day.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-16-2005, 09:31 PM
Neurotica80 Neurotica80 is offline
Senior Member
Last Man Standing
 
Join Date: 30 Nov 2002
Age: 41
Gender: female
Posts: 26,849
Default Re: glazer's man united takeover

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi
a mate reckons he'll make the money back selling his american football teams merch over here and man u's gear in the states if people are talking about throwing away season tickets and boycotting united's merchandise I can't see them running out in hordes to buy crap from this guys other teams.
Thier fans should face up to the fact that Manchester United PLC became a business a hell of a long time ago, they sell all the shite to Japan, Singapore etc so why not the states???
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-16-2005, 09:50 PM
Jim Bon Jovi Jim Bon Jovi is offline
Senior Member
Crush
 
Join Date: 31 Jul 2002
Location: In my secret bunker hiding from the invasion
Age: 37
Gender: male
Posts: 22,444
Send a message via MSN to Jim Bon Jovi
Default

I was just makign the point that if fans are going to boycott Man U merch, they're not going to be rushing out to buy american football crap and besides fans of his football team, no one in america is going to be buying man u strips by the lorry load.

I still don't get the whole reason behind the move by glazer, seriously, he seems pretty clean IMO and football is not the best way to investment for any consederable return.
__________________
the dude abides
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 03:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11.
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.