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Old 04-01-2003, 02:36 PM
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Yeah, big guys with big guns were threatened by weak innocent women and children! When you're back into a corner by such a theateneing bunch of women and children what can you do but shoot them all down?
When they fail to stop, what else can you do? It's not about the women and children themselves, but what could be in the car with them. The Iraqi's started this suicide bombing crap a few days ago. Now, this is the price of it. Sad as it is, stop means stop. Not like the military opened fire for no reason.
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Sad as it is, stop means stop. Not like the military opened fire for no reason.
not if you don't speak ****ing english it doesn't!!!!!!!

So you're saying if you're in a war situation, with guys all around with guns, firing, threatening, hell, they're in YOUR country, you're going to act carm are you? You see a way out, you take it, they woudl have been fleeing because they were scared out of their witts, and felt threatened, and just wanted to get away from the obvious (and proven) danger they faced......

Doesn't the fact that there are suiside bombers say something about the mood of the Iraqi people, they don't all want to be heroically liberated!

Again though. They took that cause of action, that turned out to be the wrong one. Hold your hands up and say you made a mistake, that's all that's needed. These sorts of things happen in a war, that's why we hate war so much. But at least have the guts to own up, hold your hands up, and stop trying to be the almighty army who do everything right, don't make mistakes, and are not in anyway responisble for the killing over there.
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not if you don't speak **** english it doesn't!!!!!!!
If they are not blind, they can see the hand gesture I would imagine.

Hey, I agree with you Mike. It was a mistake. Mistakes happen in war, you are right.
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not if you don't speak **** english it doesn't!!!!!!!
If they are not blind, they can see the hand gesture I would imagine.

Hey, I agree with you Mike. It was a mistake. Mistakes happen in war, you are right.
I think evidently in a war situation, there is going to be propaganda coverups, i.e they're not going to hold their hands up and accept their mistakes. However, I think people should be awear that this is propaganda, and we should remember that these people were innocent, that it was a mistake, and that after the war, the people involved, and the military as a whole has to apaulogise, If eveybody conviniently accepts the line that they had no choice then these mistakes will go down unachnowleged.....
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Those fcuking uneducated unemployable fcuk artists in the fcuking army fcuked up and women and children lost their lives.

There is one main reason why people join the army, and it isn't 'to serve their country', it is because they are too fcuking dumb to find a job that requires at the very least counting skills.
I resent that statement. My brother was in the army for years, and he for sure is not uneducated and unemployable. And please refrain from calling him a fcuk artist, this was uncalled for and I expect an apology immediately.
I am sorry for you that you got offended.

I thought it would be obvious that I was generalising since I said that the main reason that people join the army is because they are unemployable. Of course there are others: people *think* they are doing a good thing by defending their country's foreign policy that they probably don't understand and half of the population don't agree with, people want to see some of the world but aren't independent enough to do it on their own (or know that working at McDonalds will only get them a two week break in Benidorm once every year). There are others, I am sure.
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Oh and, we can't forget the accidental bombing of the food market. 58 dead. But we're blaming that on the Iraqis. I was flipping through the channels last night, and came across a little tribute to dead US soldiers on PBS, they were displaying their names, age, rank... I thought "Now they should put up the pictures, names, ages, and ranks of all the people these guys have killed, right next to them. And after that we should have a little tribute to all the Iraqi soldiers and civilians that have been killed since this war started."
No one likes my ideas though. I doubt even if a station wanted to show something like that, that they'd be allowed to.

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Thanks, I was going to make a point on that before, but forgot....

There's a girl I know at work, who's finishing Uni after Easter, and will be joining the navey next year.
That's great, but I was talking about the army. Out of the three main forces, it is the one with the 'most mentally challenged' members. They army is the least respected of the three.
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Its also the one with the most trades on offer for those that wish to learn something whilst they are there
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Its also the one with the most trades on offer for those that wish to learn something whilst they are there
You mean like manual skills and such?
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