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Old 11-17-2004, 10:41 PM
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just out of interest rob exactly how do you manage to blow it?

alot of the problem is that these guys wear their heart on their sleeves and it's just not attractive regardles sof wether you're a girl or a guy.

always wanting what we can;t have n all that
Well most of the time I say the wrong things at the wrong time, which puts girls off me, or sometimes I don't say anything at all because I'm afraid that I may say the wrong thing. I guess my body language must be wrong too. A lot of girls tend to glance me over and then think I'm not interested before they even bother to talk to me. That's what I think anyway because I'm definately not an ugly looking guy.

Another big problem of mine is approaching girls. I'm so low on confidence and I just know that I will **** it up. I suppose I have nothing to lose though, apart from maybe a little self pride. My only chance really of finding a nice girl is by getting to know her well. I don't get chance to meet people really because at college I do a course will all guys and they're aren't many girls at work either. When I go out it's always too noisy in clubs and stuff so I can never really get talking to anyone there. Maybe I could do with going to pubs instead or something.

OR.....maybe I should try online dating.....

Lol, nah **** that. Never do that! :P
for a guy who's confident enough to admit he's not an ugly ****er, the highlighted line doesn't make much sense to me.

You think guys who have the gift of the gab were born with it? It#'s all learned through practice mate ie approaching people.

It's going to go 3 ways. You get owned and dont even remember it the next morning, you're plitely refused and you move onto the next girl or shes interested and who knows what....

I was in a club the other week and for some reason i bottled it goign up to talk to a chinese girl for some reason. i dunno why i just thought nah. shortly after i laughed at myself, thought don't be a dick head and went up to talk to her. she didn't speak a word of english but at least I tried and God loves a trier.

telling you man, you're never goign to get good at it if you don't do it.

put it this way. for every guy like you in the club or pub that won';t talk to a girl, there's dogs like me who will......
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Old 11-18-2004, 03:20 PM
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The guy that posted this really pisses me off, it really does come across as some guy strutting around believing he is the master of the sodding universe (No.. not he-man you geek) dispensing his pearls of accumulated genius to the world… I want to thump him
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Respect a woman, treat her kind, but NEVER kiss her ass. She will hurt you, walk on you, and you WILL lose her
Well, first off, there’s nothing wrong with a healthy relationship with a fit girls ass… and many of my acquaintances pay good money to be hurt and walked on… who is he to judge fringe sexuality interests? Of course you’ll bloody lose her, guys actively try to in large department stores so they can go and play with the playstations.

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NEVER chase women. There is no need. Let me explain: A man sees women as a pack of gazelles on the savannah....and we are a hungry cheetah.
NEVER take hallucinogenic drugs while attempting to date women… with the exception of ecstasy very few are going to improve your sexual performance to any great extent… and if you want to be in floods of tears because everything is “too beautiful” while your lady/gazelle leaves with someone that isn’t a hippy that's your loss.


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nobody deserves to get crapped on (…) Even if you think it's cool or funny, don't fart on your girlfriend (…) not be the one you want to do some amateur scat porn with
This is what psychologists call “repression” however loud he protests a recurring theme seems to be developing through his advice… would you trust this man not to have set up a plethora of webcams in your toilet?

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Find out about a girl's family before you have sex with her
Hmm… advocating incest now are we?... creep

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If she's wild, promiscuous or running in the wrong crowds, something's amiss on the home front (…)Don't bring sexual weirdness into a relationship you hope to make last. Three-ways, kinky stuff, etc. NEVER fly with a steady thing.
This roughly translates as “My wife is exceptionally closed minded and won’t entertain any of my requests to spice things up… especially my macabre $hit obsession, because of this I’ll feel the need to put down others who have a trusting relationship and can engaged in a bit of kink from time to time because I am barely managing to conceal my jealousy and am stuck for life in a very vanilla situation… excuse me while I head off to watch my most recent toilet recordings.”

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On that note, NEVER try to "fix" a woman or repair the damage done by a bad background. It's nearly impossible
I’ll hang those bon mots above the surgery in the accident and emergency dept. of our local hospital… it’ll save the tax payer hundreds of thousands.


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All women, no matter what they tell you or you read in Hustler, need sex about 1/8 as much as you do
Id Est: His wife tells him to **** off seven times out of eight before caving in to avoid him and his phenomenal ego sodding off in a sulk to the attic to watch toilet porn.

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If there's one thing all girls can sense, it's a "creepy" vibe.
It’s not just limited to girls in this man’s case… he is evidently speaking with a lot of experience here.


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It will make you seem about 173% more attractive.
Trying too hard to be “offhand” and cool by “nonchalantly” throwing out a random number… this man probably plays a lot of “Tiberian Sun”

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They WANT to hate your guts (you're boning their baby)
Incest, Scat and now paedophilia… is there no end to this sickos debauchery?

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Nothing is worse than the mental imagery of a ghost who bangs your lover
Look, it’s not like I’m not trying to see his point of view here but seriously… I try so damn hard and I’m just getting slimer from the ghostbusters trying to get it on which is quite comical really… I can think of much worse things… he obviously isn’t trying hard enough…


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she will probably live up to your expectations and screw your friends (wouldn't you?).
Repressed Homosexuality… wants to screw his friends… not a good basis for a steady relationship.

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Don't drive your girlfriend into someone's bed
I mean, this goes without saying… the number of fatal RTAs nowadays is worrying enough without this kind of reckless nonsense.

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It's not hard, just stop thinking about your boner and speak.
What?? Now is it just me but do many of you guys sit about and think about your boner when in the company of an attractive woman? Shouldn’t you be more caught up with the delectable curves of your new-found lady friend… maybe noticing her hair and eyes as you speak to her… ok..ok .. her ass and her legs and any visible cleavage .. but you get the point.
He’s probably conditioned himself into believing he’s thinking about his boner… when in essence it’s back to the repressed sexuality thing and he’s thinking about his mate, a 350 pound raiders supporting trucker called carl’s boner… be honest man, at least unto yourself.


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Every girl, from age 13 on, wants a MAN
Is that what you tell the courts… you f**king sicko … this guy must be stopped


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She may date a boy, but she will GIVE IT UP to a man
The nob-goblin doth protest too much, methinks … why not buy a loudhailer and run about the streets shouting “I AM A MAN … GIRLS GIVE IT UP TO ME” it’s the same thing … wouldn’t you question just how confident a guy is that needs to do that… we must banish him back into his attic scat porn room until he confronts the nature of his sexuality, how secure his current, obviously unhappy, relationship is and until he signs a contract in blood promising never again to offer his sick and twisted advice to teenagers… let’s break the chain.
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Rob - I can only speak for myself here, but most girls I know and myself included, we don't want a line!! Just be yourself, act naturally and you will impress a girl quicker than you can imagine! Personally I always prefer a guy who just talks to me and not to my breasts!

Just be yourself and like Jim says it will never get easier, you will crash and burn quite a few times before getting it right. Nothing ventured nothing gained!
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Rob - I can only speak for myself here, but most girls I know and myself included, we don't want a line!! Just be yourself, act naturally and you will impress a girl quicker than you can imagine! Personally I always prefer a guy who just talks to me and not to my breasts!

Just be yourself and like Jim says it will never get easier, you will crash and burn quite a few times before getting it right. Nothing ventured nothing gained!
Thanks for the advice, and I know exactly what I must do but in the heat of the moment I either bottle it or just don't know what to say. When I was in Faliraki (Greece) on holiday it was so much easier because I could just walk up to girls and say, "So where are you from?", but over here I've no line to get started. I don't mean a cheesy chat up line like you said that most girls don't want. I've never done that because I think girls don't want it either.
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Of course you’ll bloody lose her, guys actively try to in large department stores so they can go and play with the playstations.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you sure you are male??? cause you are too insightful, really lol.
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Rob - I can only speak for myself here, but most girls I know and myself included, we don't want a line!! Just be yourself, act naturally and you will impress a girl quicker than you can imagine! Personally I always prefer a guy who just talks to me and not to my breasts!

Just be yourself and like Jim says it will never get easier, you will crash and burn quite a few times before getting it right. Nothing ventured nothing gained!
Thanks for the advice, and I know exactly what I must do but in the heat of the moment I either bottle it or just don't know what to say. When I was in Faliraki (Greece) on holiday it was so much easier because I could just walk up to girls and say, "So where are you from?", but over here I've no line to get started. I don't mean a cheesy chat up line like you said that most girls don't want. I've never done that because I think girls don't want it either.
How about trying a simple "How are you??" or "Can I buy you a drink?"... they usually work!!

The simpler the line.. the better!
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How about trying a simple "How are you??" or "Can I buy you a drink?"... they usually work!!

The simpler the line.. the better!
Yeah that could work. Especially the drink one. :P

When I do try to talk to girls I tend to just ask they're name, and if they tell me then give them a compliment or something, but it nearly always fizzles out to nothing. I guess for a start I need to be in the right frame of mind too.
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you sure you are male??? cause you are too insightful, really lol.
I'd check spunky, but I'm on my last warning at work about that sort of thing!

On a more serious note Rob, you are probably just best to disregard any “sure-fire” tips and just be you, it’s all very well people telling you to treat girls a certain way but if it’s not really you it won’t feel right and you won’t be able to keep up the act through a relationship.

I guess the only thing to do is just get out to as many social situations as you can and mingle… house/flat parties, are usually easier than clubs because you can usually talk to people without needing to shout at the top of your voice… also it’s easier to talk to people you don’t know as the standard “Where do you know X (the host/hostess) from?” is a good opener and you can show interest in whatever their response is and start a conversation from there. It’s a lot easier talking to girls at parties or in sports clubs etc. than an actual club as when you approach someone there it’s pretty transparent why you are doing it… but hell, what’s the worst that can happen even if you do? If a girl catches your eye and smiles a few times at you then she’ll probably be very pleased if you offer to buy her a drink… and even if you’ve misread it and she says “no” the worst that’s going to happen is you feel a bit stupid for a few minutes and then have a laugh about it with your mates.

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How about trying a simple "How are you??" or "Can I buy you a drink?"... they usually work!!

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Yeah that could work. Especially the drink one. :P

When I do try to talk to girls I tend to just ask they're name, and if they tell me then give them a compliment or something, but it nearly always fizzles out to nothing. I guess for a start I need to be in the right frame of mind too.
Although the compliment thing is really sweet, it might be too much too soon! You don't want to appear to eager! Also, just try and start up a conversation.. honestly, if you just talk to a girl, I promise it will go better. Just ask her questions about herself and if she starts asking you questions you are on a roll!! you need to check each other out to start off with, so what better way then getting to know the person! Just keep it simple, ask her where she is from, does she come to wherever you meet her often (but not in a pick-up line type of way!!!), what her interests are and so on! It really can be done.. just try the conversation, compliments will come and by then you will have won her over anyway!
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8. All women, no matter what they tell you or you read in Hustler, need sex about 1/8 as much as you do. They do it for different reasons - mainly to feel sexy and worth something - and the physical drive isn't there (that's what testosterone does, and they're in short supply of it). A girl that craves sex too much is sporting a troubled background - bank on it.

Completely disagree. Sexual urges are based on many things. A woman doesn't have to have a troubled past to enjoy sex and a lot of it.
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