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Old 01-10-2004, 04:06 PM
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is anyone seeing the irony in that one?
Irony like the huge outcry at the start of the war when the Iraqi television showed 6 US hostages?
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there's a tiny little bit of difference between soldiers doing their job being allowed human rights and pricks like saddam huessein doing it.

put it this way if the war had went the other way and by some quirk of fate saddam caught george bush or tony blair do u think he'd have batted an eyelid at havign them executed in public? mwhereas we've got the ****ing loser brigade moaning about the infringment of human rights of someone who basically gave most of his country none.

it's like people in jail complaining about the conditions. guess what if u dont want to live in a ****in manky cell u dont commit crimes.
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there's a tiny little bit of difference between soldiers doing their job being allowed human rights and pricks like saddam huessein doing it.
The way I see it the country being invaded shouldn't be the ones crucified for breaking the Geneva convention.

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put it this way if the war had went the other way and by some quirk of fate saddam caught george bush or tony blair do u think he'd have batted an eyelid at havign them executed in public?
I think there'd be a bit of an outcry yes.

& how is that going to happen?

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whereas we've got the **** loser brigade moaning about the infringment of human rights of someone who basically gave most of his country none.
Yeah - well they've obviously got too much time on their hands. Although I think ppl that moan about them, yet were part of the US outcry at the time over the treatment of their invaders are just as bad.

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it's like people in jail complaining about the conditions. guess what if u dont want to live in a **** manky cell u dont commit crimes.
I actually agree with that.
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mike imagine ur one of the soldiers pullign saddam huessein out of that hole. i'd be takign photos left right and centre to show my grandkids etc... the photos have gotten into the wrong hands and ended up on the internet. its a bit different from iraqi and arab news stations broadcasting stuff.
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mike imagine ur one of the soldiers pullign saddam huessein out of that hole. i'd be takign photos left right and centre to show my grandkids etc... the photos have gotten into the wrong hands and ended up on the internet. its a bit different from iraqi and arab news stations broadcasting stuff.
I thought this was an operation to capture Saddam, not a sight seeing operation.... what r they doing with cameras in the first place?
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so ur honestly saying if u were there uw ouldnt have took a photo?

lets be realistic here mate, like it or not its history int he making and i think an outcry about some personal photos is a bit hypocritical considering the length of time these prats turned their back to what he was doing to his people.
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so ur honestly saying if u were there uw ouldnt have took a photo?
I would have thought it'd be a dangerous mission. I am still mistified as to why soldiers on duty are allowed to have cameras?

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lets be realistic here mate, like it or not its history int he making and i think an outcry about some personal photos is a bit hypocritical considering the length of time these prats turned their back to what he was doing to his people.
I think it is about consistency & not bringing ourselves down to their level.

I certainly don't think its hollywood material.
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so ur honestly saying if u were there uw ouldnt have took a photo?
I would have thought it'd be a dangerous mission. I am still mistified as to why soldiers on duty are allowed to have cameras?

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lets be realistic here mate, like it or not its history int he making and i think an outcry about some personal photos is a bit hypocritical considering the length of time these prats turned their back to what he was doing to his people.
I think it is about consistency & not bringing ourselves down to their level.

I certainly don't think its hollywood material.
you've not actually denied you would have done the same thing in the situation

and if we're talkign consistency then the human rights mob aka those with far too much free time on their hands. should have been bawlign and shouting about saddam during his reign or they shouldn't be complaining just now. oneor the other man.
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so ur honestly saying if u were there uw ouldnt have took a photo?
I would have thought it'd be a dangerous mission. I am still mistified as to why soldiers on duty are allowed to have cameras?

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lets be realistic here mate, like it or not its history int he making and i think an outcry about some personal photos is a bit hypocritical considering the length of time these prats turned their back to what he was doing to his people.
I think it is about consistency & not bringing ourselves down to their level.

I certainly don't think its hollywood material.
you've not actually denied you would have done the same thing in the situation
The thought wouldn't even have crossed my mind to take a camera on that mission.

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and if we're talkign consistency then the human rights mob aka those with far too much free time on their hands. should have been bawlign and shouting about saddam during his reign or they shouldn't be complaining just now. oneor the other man.
I'll think you'll find they did. They consistently moan about everything.

Put in Human Rights & Iraq on Google, there will be far more about it than Saddams pictures.
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so ur honestly saying if u were there uw ouldnt have took a photo?
I would have thought it'd be a dangerous mission. I am still mistified as to why soldiers on duty are allowed to have cameras?

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lets be realistic here mate, like it or not its history int he making and i think an outcry about some personal photos is a bit hypocritical considering the length of time these prats turned their back to what he was doing to his people.
I think it is about consistency & not bringing ourselves down to their level.

I certainly don't think its hollywood material.
you've not actually denied you would have done the same thing in the situation
The thought wouldn't even have crossed my mind to take a camera on that mission.

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and if we're talkign consistency then the human rights mob aka those with far too much free time on their hands. should have been bawlign and shouting about saddam during his reign or they shouldn't be complaining just now. oneor the other man.
I'll think you'll find they did. They consistently moan about everything.

Put in Human Rights & Iraq on Google, there will be far more about it than Saddams pictures.
yeah but they were alot less vocal about mr huessein and the workings of his regime than what they are about this one. lets face it if they really wanted to these people could draw massive attention to pretty much anything they wanted but they pick and choose and alot of the time i think they do it to get a rise out of people.
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