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Old 12-03-2006, 05:04 PM
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you are talking total rubbish. you have no idea what you are talking about.

ok because one drink a week will kill you qicker than one shot of herion! drink is playing like fire!

i dnt know what im talking about? iv seen more shit happen because of drink and drugs than u willl in a life time! so **** up!
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:07 PM
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hold on are you trying to say that someone will die from on drink faster tha they will than herion? alcohol hasnt a higher death rate as it doesn cause death its self, it mite cause liver disease but that is only throught abuis of it. drugs can kill you on the spot, and it doesnt take much that! if drugs was safer to use then wouldnt they be baning alcohol?

ill ignore you ireland comment which to me makes no sense what so ever! there is more people addict to drugs than alcohol at student uni level.

you can never jusrtify the use of drugs any time! same as you cant for drink! its all self-indulgence! but drink isnt playing with fire!
Also that is not entirely true, but more true than your first statement...

Again, I wasn't talking about heroin, crack, that indeed is a drug that stand on its own.
For the others, people died because they were using not a drug but something else instead. I know people died becasue of rat-poisioning in XTC, that kinda stuff. True
But dying instantly on any normally drug (except the above mentioned) just doesn't happen. A OD on cocaine just doesn't exist. It will cause a heart-attack, only with addicted people though, but the same risk is with alcohol-addictive people (who have more risks! on long-term), and even with smoking eventually... The last 2 (alcohol & smoking) have more risk then any lets say medium-drug on long-term...

Any person can justify using whatever, its his own body, own choice. I don't know a lot of people who ever regretted using drugs or alcohol (wich is actually the same), not including addicted people..

It are the people around tha t person who maybe are justifying but mainly without having a clue what they are talking about....

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cuchulainn you're missing the point that far more people drink than would even consider going near heroin so drink kills WAY more people than smack ever will.

heroin and E might kill a few hundred people in scotland a year max. alcohol and it's effects will kill tens of thousands.

as for crime. the vast majority of crime is perpetuated whilst under the influence of alcohol. there's many more bottles smashed over peoples heads, cars drove into people and people stabbed because of alcohol than there is old women mugged because a junkie needs a score.

i have done a bunch of drugs and the only one comparable to drink is coke in that it turns you into an animal and makes you really aggresive.

most other drugs totally chill you out and the odds of you wanting to harm anything or anyone whilst on most drugs is way lower than when drinking.
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ok because one drink a week will kill you qicker than one shot of herion! drink is playing like fire!

i dnt know what im talking about? iv seen more shit happen because of drink and drugs than u willl in a life time! so **** up!
oh chuck your toys out the pram cause you think you know the lot. how arrogant can you be?

why dont you try calming down and typing in a normal way so that you can be understood?

drink is playing like fire?

what the hell does that mean
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Any person can justify using whatever, its his own body, own choice. I don't know a lot of people who ever regretted using drugs or alcohol (wich is actually the same), not including addicted people..
you are correct it is anyones choice to do whatever they want so long as they dont hurt another human being what business is it of anyone else?
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you are correct it is anyones choice to do whatever they want so long as they dont hurt another human being what business is it of anyone else?
quoth bentham.

speaking of old uncle jeremy. when i was in amsterdam on copious amounts of mind altering substances i wrote notes and at 4 in the morning i was writing and discussing bentham, mills and marx with a guy from glasgow i;d met there. i can't imagine the conversation being anywhere near as high brow, coherent or insightful if we'd been drinking stella all night.
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you are correct it is anyones choice to do whatever they want so long as they dont hurt another human being what business is it of anyone else?
because you then give money to a dealer, who buys more of somebody else who then sells more drugs to peo;lle who cant ahndel it and soon there addicted and there life is shit! then the dealker will probs start selling to school children who then get there life ****ed up!!
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because you then give money to a dealer, who buys more of somebody else who then sells more drugs to peo;lle who cant ahndel it and soon there addicted and there life is shit! then the dealker will probs start selling to school children who then get there life ****ed up!!
because the alcohol addicted give their money to a liquor store or bar, who therefore buy more alcohol for their customers, in wich are people who can't handle it (alcohol) and soon there addicted and there life is shit.
The the liquor store or bar probs start selling to younger kids or those kids can just take the alcohol from their parents as its in a lot of household and who then get there life ****ed up!!!

Lol... its the same...

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because you then give money to a dealer, who buys more of somebody else who then sells more drugs to peo;lle who cant ahndel it and soon there addicted and there life is shit! then the dealker will probs start selling to school children who then get there life ****ed up!!

how many kids in high school drink compared to doing drugs?
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because the alcohol addicted give their money to a liquor store or bar, who therefore buy more alcohol for their customers, in wich are people who can't handle it (alcohol) and soon there addicted and there life is shit.
The the liquor store or bar probs start selling to younger kids or those kids can just take the alcohol from their parents as its in a lot of household and who then get there life ****ed up!!!

Lol... its the same...

lol very true! byut drugs is stil worse than alcohol!! it will take a wiole for you yto be ****ed up on alchol but not on drugs!
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