iain duncan smith

Kev Bee · #11 10-29-2003, 06:03 PM

Sorry Jim, that comment came out wrong

If you have worked damn hard and built your money you have earned it and it should be yours to play with.

What i meant was the people who are born with the silver spoon, you never pay for anything and you get money for nothing....they should be taxed more.

Jim Bon Jovi · #12 10-29-2003, 06:13 PM

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Sorry Jim, that comment came out wrong

If you have worked damn hard and built your money you have earned it and it should be yours to play with.

What i meant was the people who are born with the silver spoon, you never pay for anything and you get money for nothing....they should be taxed more.

no worries bud. im just sick of all the lefties and socilaists moanign about the rich poor divide. thats life. if ur not willing to get of ur arse and apply urself to life then dont expect hand outs.

as u said tax the people with the silver spoons but ont he other hand for the genuine poor people who cant get a decent job or are prevented from doign so in one way or another, there's plenty of people content to sit back and pick up their giro week in week out and these r the people always complaining about the rich.

Mike · #13 10-29-2003, 08:29 PM

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If Kenneth Clark was leader, I'd vote for the Tories tommorrow.

IDS is just a waste of space leading to no real oppositon.

hes agood man but not a leader

he is a great leadr & speaker, its just his views on Europe that alienate him from the right wing voters.

Mike · #14 10-29-2003, 08:32 PM

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The transport in this country is disgusting, the fact we are so soft with our asylum laws makes me seeth, the NHS is terrible, Schools are closing and for a country which is meant to be experiencing a boom economy why the government allowing companies to export thousands of jobs to India, whereby the Fat Cat businessman sits in a swanky lodge in London drinking champagne and smoking cigars whilst people thousands of miles away are getting payed a disgusting wage.

Any government we have in power will just walk over us.

My theory on tax has caused mass arguments with mates but i still believe we should tax the rich more and tax the working class less!

That why we need a decent opposition.

About the outsourcing, u can't really blame the government for that. It is the next step in autonomy. U will find it is only for production style jobs (scientific management) whereby the workers r cogs in a machine. So why pay ppl more to do a simple job that requires to individual thought? Thats business for you.

About tax. We do have a progessive tax system in place. (i.e. it hits the rich more than the poor). It is quite fair on that scale, if not a little high. U have to remember that the poor get a lot of hand outs anyhow & many abuse them.

tawtami · #15 10-30-2003, 01:17 PM

am not a lefty.. (am not really anything) but the goverment in general... by that i mean all politicians are too screwed up to actually sort out.

plus politics from what i can szee jsut tends to swing between the two anyhow, and all the floating voters give someone a chance for a bit and wen that dont work go to the others....

it all needs scrapping and actually defining in ways that mean it wont get screwed over again...

iain duncan smith

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