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Old 07-23-2003, 02:58 PM
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Sex education is a waste of time, if You have unprotected sex you more than likely will become pregnant, everyone knows this so stupid lessons wont stop it, most girls of 14 and 15 are sluts anyway
which is what i said at the beginning we must have the most slappers
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sex education or not, young people will have sex. i dunno about u but i think its pretty much common sense that a condom stops u getting people pregnant and std's and i didn't need some teacher telling me that to find out.

the problem with young girls getting pregnant isn't that they didn't know what they were doing it's that this stupid government hands "single" mothers everything on a plate.

there was a new scheme built a couple of miles away from here, all really nice houses and lots of people in council houses were applying for them and none of them got them. y? because they moved all the single mothers (well most of their partners still live with them but shhh! that means less money) in to the houses, rent free with benefits.

it's a sad state of affairs when my girlfriends mate from work is 25, married with a kid and works full time and makes less from her job than her 17 year old sister who's just found out she's pregnant for the second time gets off the government.

take away the money, the figures will fall. it's as simple as that.
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And did you know that ever new building site has to build 7 house to home these people which is helping to push up the house prices so people like me are getting penerlised
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sex education or not, young people will have sex. i dunno about u but i think its pretty much common sense that a condom stops u getting people pregnant and std's and i didn't need some teacher telling me that to find out.

the problem with young girls getting pregnant isn't that they didn't know what they were doing it's that this stupid government hands "single" mothers everything on a plate.

there was a new scheme built a couple of miles away from here, all really nice houses and lots of people in council houses were applying for them and none of them got them. y? because they moved all the single mothers (well most of their partners still live with them but shhh! that means less money) in to the houses, rent free with benefits.

it's a sad state of affairs when my girlfriends mate from work is 25, married with a kid and works full time and makes less from her job than her 17 year old sister who's just found out she's pregnant for the second time gets off the government.

take away the money, the figures will fall. it's as simple as that.
And this Jim is the entire problem!!!

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i think its pretty much common sense that a condom stops u getting people pregnant and std's and i didn't need some teacher telling me that to find out.
not always as black and white as that though and so it can be important to advise and warn people of the risks even with/after or OF using protection
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of course it isn't as black and white as that but a bit of common sense goes a long way.

people are always looking to blame something else when the most obvious thing is right in front of them and the easiest to fix.

it's the schools, it's the children, it's TV, it's lack of discipline and all that shite.

it's not it all comes down to the fac tthat if a girl gets pregnant in the UK she'll get money fromt he government to help look after it. there's no risk involved in it, take away the money and when they start thinking, wait a minute if i do get pregnant i won't get any help and need to get a job or something, then u've got it sorted.

in this case and as the same with the asylum seekers, take away the money u give them and no one will be in such a rush to get pregnant young or come here for benefits.
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Doncaster + Rotherham are very bad for it, Sheffield is slightly better


bet ol' Krb has a few kids
Barnsley is bad too
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Also if you take away the money our taxes we pay will down, and as you say they might think twice before opening up their legs.I have a customer who's daughter has had 3 children all with different fathers and she got handed a 3 bed house, income surport and does not have to pay the poll tax and what does she do allday? sit on her arse
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i had sex education at school but that doesnt mean it was any good. we learnt bugger all to be honest. it was good for the changes-that-happen-to-your-body-as-you-grow-up education (it was sponsored by a sanitary towel company that gave us videos) but not much good for education about yor emotions, and even worse for actual sex education. it was funny, they called it "sex education classes" but we werent educated much about sex in those classes.
didnt learn anything about how to have sex, getting pregnent, abortion, sexual diseases (i didnt find out what AIDS was until i was about 14 or even 15, and i know someone who didnt find out til she was 16), contraception, relationships, laws (didnt know about age of consent or anything). our teacher was a bit crap at it, think she was embarrassed or something, and my mum didnt teach me anything, but my dad taught me about sexually transmitted diseases and all that, he also taught me about drugs (he learnt about them from experience in his wild uni days, which i think made him a better teacher on it than the teachers and policemen and social workers who taught us at school - theyve probably never gone anywhere near drugs so what do they know?) he was a better teacher for that sorta stuff than a lot of the teachers at school.
i had sex education at my last school, in year 6, and i started my current school in year 8, and they had sex education in year 7 at my current school, so id just missed it. they told me about it - they watched a VERY explicit video of a couple having sex, and they were taught more adultly and explicitly about it, and it was more about sex than my old school's so-called "sex education". as far as i know there has never been a teenage pregnancy at my new school, but some ppl from my old school went to comprehensives where they had no sex education, and every year their class got smaller cos someone left cos they were pregnant.
i think its something to do with the way sex education is done at school, and also at home - parents and teachers should b able to talk openly with kids about sex cos then if the kids have questions (like about pregnancy or contraception) they wont be afraid to ask, and they might get some advice which stops them getting pregnant.
without education, kids think some very weird stuff about sex, like u cant get pregnant your first time (i believed that for a while), or u only get pregannt if youre trying 4 a baby and u want to get pregnant (i cant belive i belived that too for a while), stuff like that, u hear all these urban legends and myths and old wives tales, and if u dont know any better than that than u probably will get pregnant, so decent sex education would help a lot.
they should also tell you what bringing up babies is like - that would lower the teen pregnancy rate a lot! i know ppl who get to about 14 and suddenly they start saying "i wanna have a baby now!" and i think its cos theyve never seen real babies, only the cute ones that dont cry or scream or do what babies do, that u see on the nappy adverts. (theres a new nappy ad with a mother kissing the babys arse, i felt sick and needed a cigarette after seeing that, cos u wouldnt kiss the arse of 99% of babies cos u'd probably catch a disease or summat, the babies they use on nappy adverts are a lot healthier and cleaner and better-behaved than most babies.) ive babysat and most of the babies ive met are nothing like the ones on tv - they scream all day and night and all that. theres these baby dolls that cry like the real thing and u have to keep them happy all the time, and they give them to teen mothers to give them an idea of what real motherhood is like, and i think they should do it more, that wld reduce teen pregnancy rates.
didnt know about the new labour law. i had my 1st kiss when i was 13 and i was told by other kids my age that i was really late! anyway it doesnt matter if its illegal cos every1 will do it anyway. they have sex under 16 so theyll kiss under 16.
didnt know about the money either, but that wouldnt be enuff to make me have a kid now, i dont have any money or my own house and im still at school/college, and anyway i havent found many guys worth having kids with to choose from.
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Ive been thinking about this over night and you can't take away the money as the babies would suffer and i wouldn't want to see that happening
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