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Old 03-18-2005, 05:30 PM
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there is apart of me that thinks its too much and behaving like animals . sometimes 2 wrongs dont make a right ?
Animals only kill for food, when people kill others for no reason they deserve to be punished themselves and made to suffer. Othewise others would kill because they knew they could get away with it.
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Old 03-18-2005, 05:43 PM
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oh i'm not saying he shouldnt suffer i totaly agree he should have suffered and been killed but in that way in front of kids aswell? i mean what the hell does it do to a kid to see that?
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It is punishments like that which would act as a deterant, not a few years in prison.
I don't agree with killing people as a punishment at all- it makes the authoroties who allow it just as bad as the murderer.
No it doesn't. He killed for no reason. The people he killed where innocent., they had done nothing wrong. For that he deserves to be punished.
Yes he derseves to be punished, but by killing him you are treating him the same way that he treated his victims, which makes the people who sentenced and killed him just as bad as him.
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by killing him you are treating him the same way that he treated his victims, which makes the people who sentenced and killed him just as bad as him.
No, it is not the same. They are killing him for a reason, for a punishment, not out of some sick pleasure.

Imagine this scanrio;

You are out one day and someone steals your car. You eventually find that person and take your car back. Is that wrong? Applying the same logic to this situation it is wrong to take your car back.
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by killing him you are treating him the same way that he treated his victims, which makes the people who sentenced and killed him just as bad as him.
No, it is not the same. They are killing him for a reason, for a punishment, not out of some sick pleasure.

Imagine this scanrio;

You are out one day and someone steals your car. You eventually find that person and take your car back. Is that wrong? Applying the same logic to this situation it is wrong to take your car back.
That's taking something that you own back, no-one owns other people's lives.
I suppose this is one of those debates that can never be solved- like if you take a loaf of bread to feed your starving family is it considerd stealing?

I notice that you are also from the Uk- do you think that we should re-introduce the death penalty? In case you haven't guessed, i don't think we should, but 60% of people in the Uk think that it should be a form of punishment. But at the same time only about 40% of people think that fox hunting should be allowed to continue- funny that people think fox hunting is cruel but not the death penalty. Personally i don't agree with either.
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I think it's sick. Both the crimes of this man and his execution.
Agreed. Looks like the middle ages when they hanged people among crowds who enjoyed the show. We haven't really come a long way, have we?

And, whatever he might have done to my famile there's no way I was stabbing him or placing the noose around his neck. No way.

Also it been repeatedly proven that death penalty does NOT act as a deterrent - whether done in private or in public.
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by killing him you are treating him the same way that he treated his victims, which makes the people who sentenced and killed him just as bad as him.
No, it is not the same. They are killing him for a reason, for a punishment, not out of some sick pleasure.

Imagine this scanrio;

You are out one day and someone steals your car. You eventually find that person and take your car back. Is that wrong? Applying the same logic to this situation it is wrong to take your car back.
Haha! A car is not a person!! It has nothing to do with death penalty - and such a cruel one at that.

If you really want to punish someone a life sentence is the thing. Death - cruel as it might be - is only a few minutes' suffering. A life sentence is much, much worse.

Revenge on the part of the authorities is awful and not a thing I like to see. It shows we're still savage people deep down. Once I wrote a paper on the death penalty and there was this girl whose father had been murdered and she said she was praying for his murderer not to be sentenced to death penalty because she didn't want to see another family suffering like her own. And it's true. It's the family that really suffers the consequences, not the guilty person.
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I notice that you are also from the Uk- do you think that we should re-introduce the death penalty? In case you haven't guessed, i don't think we should, but 60% of people in the Uk think that it should be a form of punishment. But at the same time only about 40% of people think that fox hunting should be allowed to continue- funny that people think fox hunting is cruel but not the death penalty. Personally i don't agree with either.
I believe that fox hunting is wrong, but it is not comparable to the death penalty. Fox "hunters" kill an innocent creature, much the same way a murdered would. They however are not punished for it, but if someone takes the life of another theirs should be forfeit.
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Revenge on the part of the authorities is awful and not a thing I like to see. It shows we're still savage people deep down. Once I wrote a paper on the death penalty and there was this girl whose father had been murdered and she said she was praying for his murderer not to be sentenced to death penalty because she didn't want to see another family suffering like her own. And it's true. It's the family that really suffers the consequences, not the guilty person.
If someone had killed a member of my family I'd want person revenge on them.

If a member of my family had killed someone, and I love my family, for them to do something like that would make me re-think how I feel about them, and whereas I would be upset if they where given death it would be no more than they deserved.
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So we aren't past an eye for an eye, huh?
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