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Old 03-18-2005, 08:01 PM
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So you think if someone killed someone you loved you wouldn't want them to suffer for it? A jail sentence is pathetic since they have so much to do in there to take their mind off what they did. They should be put in solitary confinement for the rest of their life with nothing to do, no tv, nothing to do but sit and think about it.
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So you think if someone killed someone you loved you wouldn't want them to suffer for it? A jail sentence is pathetic since they have so much to do in there to take their mind off what they did. They should be put in solitary confinement for the rest of their life with nothing to do, no tv, nothing to do but sit and think about it.
Well it's something you can't know until it happens but I might want them to spend their life in jail but not to die or to suffer "physically". All the suffering in the world wouldn't bring the loved one back now would it?
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Old 03-18-2005, 08:16 PM
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So you think if someone killed someone you loved you wouldn't want them to suffer for it? A jail sentence is pathetic since they have so much to do in there to take their mind off what they did. They should be put in solitary confinement for the rest of their life with nothing to do, no tv, nothing to do but sit and think about it.
Well it's something you can't know until it happens but I might want them to spend their life in jail but not to die or to suffer "physically". All the suffering in the world wouldn't bring the loved one back now would it?
Of course it wouldn't, but if they where put in prison I'd want them to have to look at photos and videos of the person they'd killed, make them suffer emitionally too.
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Old 03-18-2005, 08:31 PM
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I think it's sick. Both the crimes of this man and his execution.
me too Alex !!! totally
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I'm not just talking about this case in Iran, but there are more reasons against the death penalty in general than there are for it.
1)It is the easy way out- they never have to face up to what they have done.
2) What if that person is innocent? There was a British man recently in the news because he had been on death row, and at one time was only 16 minutes from death and he has now been found not giulty. And, a few months ago another man had a documentary made about him because he had served 25 years for murder and then he was found not guilty.
3)It is immoral and savage.

Look at the Macartney sisters in Ireland, their brother has been murdered, but they refused the IRA's offer to kill the murderers, instead they want justice in the form of the IRA being disbanded and his murderers put in prison.
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For those who don't believe in capital punishment, is the only reason for locking someone up so they don't hurt others? What is the most extreme form of punishment you think should be allowed for a man who's murdered and tortured 22 children?

Capital punishment may not be a deterent, but IMO, when you kill outside of defense ie initiate aggression, you've violated the basic code of civilization. I don't think the state has any business killing those from whom it derives its just powers, but if someone killed a member of my family, I would want to punish them to my satisfaction. Leaving them to sit in prison for 10-20 years with no regrets and pain doesn't balance the equation when I'd spend the rest of my life picking up the pieces and someone I loved wouldn't be there. Speaking simply, if you initiate aggression and kill an innocent person, having your freedom of movement restricted for a period of time (however long that may be) does not equal your crime.

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I do believe a life sentence is *the* punishment. If you try and put yourself in those shoes - what would be worse for you spending the rest of your life in jail and never ever get out of there again or just die? For me the worst without a doubt it's spending the rest of my life trapped in four walls.

Justice should be rational, and killing someone "legally" isn't very rational. Also it doesn't leave room for corrections. How many cases are there where it was only found out later that the person executed was innocent? Human judgement is not infallible, therefore it should stick to undoable punishments. I just can't believe in death penalty as a solution for anything. To me, when authorities kill they're losing my respect and my trust. I wouldn't feel any safer just because I'm guaranteed that if someone kills a member of my family they might me executed. Quite the opposite, in fact.

I really don't believe in an eye for an eye, and much less when we're supposedly so advanced and modern.
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Well Allwyn, as I understood it, death penalty doesn't have a beneficial effect on the murder rates also. It's a barbaric punishment made for the Cro-Magnon men out there.
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Well Allwyn, as I understood it, death penalty doesn't have a beneficial effect on the murder rates also. It's a barbaric punishment made for the Cro-Magnon men out there.
yeah i dont think anyone deserve a death penalty and its never serve anything... And i'm totally against for eyes for eyes or taking revange... if we do the same thing to that person that he done to someone else then there is no difference between him and us...
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