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Old 04-05-2004, 02:50 PM
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Yes THATS the whole point of this damn topic!. Is being a hardcore christain a sin. Thats my point.
You said that the Bible flows very well for you and that it has nothing to do with the Bible cause you came up with this topic because of a preacher on tv. We agreed that his preaching is based on the Bible, too. Thus it HAS something to do with the Bible, where we were at the point of contradictions again and that the whole thing doesn't work - in my opinion. Clear now?
You arent guite getting this are you?. My point was that hardcore christainty is a sin but that is someones views on the bible not the actual darn thing. Just because something is based on something doesnt mean its acurate in anyway. This topic wasnt started to discuss contradictions cause from the part im in (exodus) i havent read any. It was to discuss hardcore christians and to see if others agreed that its wrong even on bible word.
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Old 04-05-2004, 03:25 PM
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You arent guite getting this are you?
I am and I will try to make you understand my point one more time.

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My point was that hardcore christainty is a sin but that is someones views on the bible not the actual darn thing.
Exactly the point. What is the actual darn thing? It is ALWAYS someones view of the Bible! Otherwise your sentence would imply that only you understand the darn thing as it has to be understood. You will agree that it's not the case. So, calling the other thing hardcore christianity doesn't make it any worse or better than your view of the Bible.

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Just because something is based on something doesnt mean its acurate in anyway.
Exactly again. You being no hardcore christian does not make your view of the Bible any more accurate than the other one.

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This topic wasnt started to discuss contradictions cause from the part im in (exodus) i havent read any.
Still you come up with this thread that is clearly based on contradictions. You obviously don't like hardcore christianity that much, yet, it is based on the same book than your views are.
I know this was not the point of the discussion, but it is what it all boils down to, for me. Therefore I tried to make clear that for me the whole thing does not work, call it hardcore or soft christianity or whatever.

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It was to discuss hardcore christians and to see if others agreed that its wrong even on bible word.
Yes, and I was pointing out that non-hardcore christianity isn't much better cause this is my opinion.
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You arent guite getting this are you?
I am and I will try to make you understand my point one more time.

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My point was that hardcore christainty is a sin but that is someones views on the bible not the actual darn thing.
Exactly the point. What is the actual darn thing? It is ALWAYS someones view of the Bible! Otherwise your sentence would imply that only you understand the darn thing as it has to be understood. You will agree that it's not the case. So, calling the other thing hardcore christianity doesn't make it any worse or better than your view of the Bible.

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Just because something is based on something doesnt mean its acurate in anyway.
Exactly again. You being no hardcore christian does not make your view of the Bible any more accurate than the other one.

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This topic wasnt started to discuss contradictions cause from the part im in (exodus) i havent read any.
Still you come up with this thread that is clearly based on contradictions. You obviously don't like hardcore christianity that much, yet, it is based on the same book than your views are.
I know this was not the point of the discussion, but it is what it all boils down to, for me. Therefore I tried to make clear that for me the whole thing does not work, call it hardcore or soft christianity or whatever.

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It was to discuss hardcore christians and to see if others agreed that its wrong even on bible word.
Yes, and I was pointing out that non-hardcore christianity isn't much better cause this is my opinion.
Those contradictions arent in the bible through. And they arent in that guys belives either he belived homosexual people should be discriminated against THATS my point. Hes taking one part of it all and ignored the main theme of the bible. And yes his version is wronger than mines anything that makes someone else feel like crap is wrong to me and that also goes into my belives if you see that as as wrong as killing and being racist then your one ****ed up individual!.
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Those contradictions arent in the bible through. And they arent in that guys belives either he belived homosexual people should be discriminated against THATS my point.
Ok, yet, his believes are somewhere based on the Bible.

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Hes taking one part of it all and ignored the main theme of the bible. And yes his version is wronger than mines anything that makes someone else feel like crap is wrong to me and that also goes into my belives
I agree, I only meant that the Bible and its diverse interpretations have done a lot of harm to men, not just this hardcore preacher's views. That's why I don't buy the whole thing.

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if you see that as as wrong as killing and being racist then your one **** up individual!.
No need to become insulting in any way.
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