Is this morally wrong? Or even Just wrong?

hello, I was watching bbc2 earlier

now, in America its illegal to kill someone, oh wait, thats not right

its illegal to kill someone illegally, not legally

anyway, it is illegal to kill someone legally that is mentally ill, so jails are forcing mentally ill prisoners to take drugs to make them better....so they can execute them

now, my thoughts on this have nothing to do with America, I would feel the same about any country that does such a silly thing

how do you feel?

Medications don't cure mental illnesses, they just subside symptoms so those who have mental problems can live somewhat normal lives. If you put someone on medication, they may get *better* but take it away & they are a mess all over again. It is wrong, that's all there is to it. Nobody choses to be mentally ill & to make them better only to kill them is ludicrous! Sh*t, may as well kill them while their mind is gone if your gonna do it. A lot of people with mental illness don't comprehend death so I feel this is an extreme form of punishment! I guess I don't fully understand the question though. I think it is wrong so that's my answer but were these people mentally ill when they performed the crimes that led to their conviction? Did they go crazy after being caged up in prison? Have they been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as having a mental disorder? It's strange. I can't recall hearing anything like that happening in America. Here, if you plead temporary insanity for killing someone, they just throw you in prison and/or execute you - depending on the crime you committed. I'm sure there is more to it than just that and a judge/jury decides whether or not you were temporarily insane and are fit to stand trial. I guess my question is......why make them better to kill them? Just do it!

What is this exactly then?

Is this assuming that they're mentally ill when they committed the crime, or they became mentally ill in prison?

If they're mentally ill when they commit the crime, then if they're really deemed to be ill, they should be locked up as they're a danger to others (not nessesarily a prison) and they should be treated...

But treating them to make them ripe for the plucking is awful!

Ill clarify it


if they become mentally ill in prison

ah, that makes more sence now....

It just seems stupid to me.... Why not kill them? If they're really bad, and given death, and then become religious, and repent, and become a model person, do they get to walk? no. So why should somebody who developes a mental illness not have to pay for a crime they did, even though they may be different now....

There's a good bit in Measure for Measure, where a criminal is about to be executed. He's drunk though, and refuses to be executed.... They bring him out, and the priest (well, Duke if you know the play) says he's in not fit state to die. So because he's in the right mind to die, they won't kill him... Maybe it's got something to do with that. They don't think as Christians they can send somebody off to the 'next life' if they're not menatlly prepaired for it, and if they're ill...

Easy solution, no capital punishement.... that solves the problem!!!!!

yeah but would feel right murdering someone that developed a mental illness, through no fault of their own, forcing them to have some dodgy drugs way ahead of the schedule they should follow ?

yes, but the crime they committed was through a fault of their own... If they were being killed because they're mentally ill then it's a different story.... What if theyr'e in an accident, and have a limb lost. Can you then say is it right to have them killed, even though they lost their limb through no fault of their own? Like I said, I don't see any problem to them dying with a mental ilness, why do they have to be cured?

Again, I wouldn't feel right murdering anybody!

mental illness is subjective....in many cases the fact that they are going to be killed and them 'developing' the illness might tie in very suspiciously

yeah if people think if i say im crazy i wont get killed lets do it and hey i get some free drugs as a bonus. i must say if i was goin to be executed if want to be drugged upto to the clouds man.

philosophically u can't really administer utilitarian idea's on punishment here as it's a very personal thing and kantian ethics are pretty much against anything anyway but it still stands that they are being executed for something they have done and they don't just hand death penalties out, uve got to do some bad shit to get there. anyways crazy or not, they still should die.

i think they should die even if they are mentally ill because this had no bearing on why they were in there in the 1st place. u can't use a mental illness they have developed whilst in prison waiting to be executed as an execuse to get off with it for something you done beforehand.


is it just me or is there alot of born again Christains waiting to be executed? i've got a feeling the number of crazy people on death row will rise now too.

its not the fact that they are mentally Ill that bothers me

its the fact that they are forcibly given drugs just so they can be killed