It is a crime (the Oscars)

Penrose · #11 03-24-2003, 08:19 PM

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that Daniel Day Lewis didn't win the Oscar, instead it went to someone from that penis film whose director is a sex offender.

Pelansky is a great director, who obviously you don't want to congratulate on his sex offences, but did have his family horrifically murdered, and had lived throught the gettoes in Poland.

Oh, I didn't consider that. I guess that makes his c okay then.

I detect sarcasm

However, I think you're just closing your mind to something. I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination paedophilia is in any way ok, I work with children myself, and the thought of it makes me sick. However, he did have a tough life, has had a lot to deal with, and certainy had something to say through his own experiances in Poland, which made the film as powerful as it was. He's a director, which is art. Can't you apreciate art on face value, sure, his achievements will always be overshaddowed by this, but giving him the oscer was a powerful statement. Hollywood is overcrowded by buisness men, who want to make blockbuster. The fact that the achademy recognised a true artist, who is doing something special thorugh his work, is comendable.

If he was making a film about a child who is abused it woudl be completely different, the issue isn't suggested, or involved in the film in any way whatsoever. His art is coming through his tallent, and his experiances in Poland, and dealing with tragedy......

That's great. But I am talking about best actor.

Martin · #12 03-24-2003, 08:28 PM

you gotta focus on the important things: OSCAR FOR MICHEAL MOORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *yyyyeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh*

BJfan4ever · #13 03-24-2003, 08:41 PM

I don't care anymore about oscars...
when you see that Eminem how really SUCKSS!!! won an oscar....

Mike McRock · #14 03-24-2003, 08:42 PM

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that Daniel Day Lewis didn't win the Oscar, instead it went to someone from that penis film whose director is a sex offender.

Pelansky is a great director, who obviously you don't want to congratulate on his sex offences, but did have his family horrifically murdered, and had lived throught the gettoes in Poland.

Oh, I didn't consider that. I guess that makes his c okay then.

I detect sarcasm

However, I think you're just closing your mind to something. I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination paedophilia is in any way ok, I work with children myself, and the thought of it makes me sick. However, he did have a tough life, has had a lot to deal with, and certainy had something to say through his own experiances in Poland, which made the film as powerful as it was. He's a director, which is art. Can't you apreciate art on face value, sure, his achievements will always be overshaddowed by this, but giving him the oscer was a powerful statement. Hollywood is overcrowded by buisness men, who want to make blockbuster. The fact that the achademy recognised a true artist, who is doing something special thorugh his work, is comendable.

If he was making a film about a child who is abused it woudl be completely different, the issue isn't suggested, or involved in the film in any way whatsoever. His art is coming through his tallent, and his experiances in Poland, and dealing with tragedy......

That's great. But I am talking about best actor.

What, so you're saying that because he was directed by Pelansky he shouldn't have recognision for his acting?????????

Penrose · #15 03-24-2003, 08:54 PM

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that Daniel Day Lewis didn't win the Oscar, instead it went to someone from that penis film whose director is a sex offender.

Pelansky is a great director, who obviously you don't want to congratulate on his sex offences, but did have his family horrifically murdered, and had lived throught the gettoes in Poland.

Oh, I didn't consider that. I guess that makes his c okay then.

I detect sarcasm

However, I think you're just closing your mind to something. I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination paedophilia is in any way ok, I work with children myself, and the thought of it makes me sick. However, he did have a tough life, has had a lot to deal with, and certainy had something to say through his own experiances in Poland, which made the film as powerful as it was. He's a director, which is art. Can't you apreciate art on face value, sure, his achievements will always be overshaddowed by this, but giving him the oscer was a powerful statement. Hollywood is overcrowded by buisness men, who want to make blockbuster. The fact that the achademy recognised a true artist, who is doing something special thorugh his work, is comendable.

If he was making a film about a child who is abused it woudl be completely different, the issue isn't suggested, or involved in the film in any way whatsoever. His art is coming through his tallent, and his experiances in Poland, and dealing with tragedy......

That's great. But I am talking about best actor.

What, so you're saying that because he was directed by Pelansky he shouldn't have recognision for his acting?????????

No, I'm saying that Day Lewis should've won the Oscar but you start going on about Polanski and directing, mentioning nothing about the acting.

Mongoose · #16 03-24-2003, 08:54 PM

I've had a hard life, doesnt make me into paedophilia.

Mike McRock · #17 03-24-2003, 09:00 PM

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I've had a hard life, doesnt make me into paedophilia.

Not the point. Having a hard life doesn't condone what he did, but it does allow you to sympathise with the troubles he's had to face.... i.e not sypathising with paedophilia.

My point was that labling him as this, was a way of dismissing him, and you shouldn't do this.

Mike McRock · #18 03-24-2003, 09:06 PM

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No, I'm saying that Day Lewis should've won the Oscar but you start going on about Polanski and directing, mentioning nothing about the acting.

that Daniel Day Lewis didn't win the Oscar, instead it went to someone from that penis film whose director is a sex offender.

By saying 'someone for that penis film whose director is a sex offender' you're undermining his performance. Have you seen the "pianist"? If so, can you not find a better way to rate his performance, instead of dismissing it beacuse of who directed it???? What you did, was you dismissed somebody's art because of who they are, whilst what I wanted to say, was that you shoudln't condemn his abilities, or the film because of his personal life. I was also trying to make the point, that people aren't just lables, and there is much more to him that just paeodophilia!

letitrock · #19 03-24-2003, 09:17 PM

i still think Day Lewis should have got it... whatever your criticisms of GONY - this is a top class actor who doesn't do his "art" much anymore...

GONY didn't need to be a profoundly awe-inspiring film... it wasn't... DDL shone through though

letitrock · #20 03-24-2003, 09:18 PM

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that Daniel Day Lewis didn't win the Oscar, instead it went to someone from that penis film whose director is a sex offender.

Pelansky is a great director, who obviously you don't want to congratulate on his sex offences, but did have his family horrifically murdered, and had lived throught the gettoes in Poland.

Oh, I didn't consider that. I guess that makes his c okay then.

I detect sarcasm

However, I think you're just closing your mind to something. I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination paedophilia is in any way ok, I work with children myself, and the thought of it makes me sick. However, he did have a tough life, has had a lot to deal with, and certainy had something to say through his own experiances in Poland, which made the film as powerful as it was. He's a director, which is art. Can't you apreciate art on face value, sure, his achievements will always be overshaddowed by this, but giving him the oscer was a powerful statement. Hollywood is overcrowded by buisness men, who want to make blockbuster. The fact that the achademy recognised a true artist, who is doing something special thorugh his work, is comendable.

If he was making a film about a child who is abused it woudl be completely different, the issue isn't suggested, or involved in the film in any way whatsoever. His art is coming through his tallent, and his experiances in Poland, and dealing with tragedy......

That's great. But I am talking about best actor.

What, so you're saying that because he was directed by Pelansky he shouldn't have recognision for his acting?????????

No, I'm saying that Day Lewis should've won the Oscar but you start going on about Polanski and directing, mentioning nothing about the acting.

that's true actually

It is a crime (the Oscars)

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