but was he Jesus ben Joseph? (completely different to ben panthera) that would assume that he was the son of joseph .'. nothing can be substansiated with the theory of a virgin birth (which do happen... just that theyre always girls that are born...) thus disproving christ possibly being the messiah, and thered certainly be no big thing about 'finding' him, cause both jesus and joesph were very common names.. plus its pretty widespread that Jesus, if not of virgin borth was illegitamate which then changes things because they arent called jesus ben _____ in that case....it changes.

ill post my essay notes sometime up on this.....
might be interesting reading.