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Originally Posted by joviscout
in the fact that every thing thats classed as right end dont murder, rape steal lie all comes from the bible.
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nope. it is written in the bible but in about 90% of the places where people now belief this, there were already these laws before they became christians. and there haven't been less murders after the christianisation. there have never been as many rapes as in the medieval age, where people believed most. etc. etc.
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well it was written by men, so i don't get what you mean here! or do you think it was written by God himself or what?
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Yes it was written by men....men selected by god to write it. So what does that have to do with anything?
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you said that without God giving us the bible, nobody could think of rules like that. I think that the people who have written the bible have thought of all these rules. there are almost the same rules all over the world, wether they believe in the bible or not, so no, we don't need a bible to write rules like that. our conscience tells us whats right and whats wrong without ever reading a book like the bible.
i don't have anything against religion or against the bible, but it's just wrong that there wouldn't be any laws without it. or how do you explain that they have similar laws all over the world?
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Originally Posted by joviscout
were you asleep during the afganistan and iraq wars? you think thats the end of the war on terrorism i think not lol. And also what was sars was that just a little 'glitch' then?. Sure it wasnt a full blown plague but it was damn close and it did enough damage. You mention all those illnesses how about replacing them with the words cancer and aids..... i bet those two have killled as much.
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you bet those have killed as much? haven't heard much about the pest then! and even with aids and cancer it is wrong that there are more diseases around these days.
no, i wasn't asleep, but the wars you named weren't fought in europe. i was clearly talking about wars in europe! if you count them all over the world there are much more than 2 wars anyway, but i was talking about europe where people aren't too religious anymore and you said, the less religion the more wars. (in reality religion was always a "good reason" for a war, the crushades for example).
and then you said the more we go away from the bible the more viruses we have and you name SARS as an example. SARS was mainly a problem in and from asia. people there never followed the bible and never changed their religious believs much. so i can't see a link between bible and SARS even if i try to tollerate a lot of fuzzy logic.