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stereotypes exist for a reason.

it's no different from people saying the scottish have a shitty diet and we're a nation of alcoholics.

do we drink too much and eat alot fo shit yes so even tho the comments may offend people u can't say that to an extent they arent true and u cant say that what killroy said wasn't true to an extent.

as i've said before he never said ALL arabs
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just like saying all yanks are fat, love guns and stupid. No-one would get fired for that, infact most of the population of Britain would agree
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just like saying all yanks are fat, love guns and stupid. No-one would get fired for that, infact most of the population of Britain would agree
Write an article saying all Americans are Fat, War Mongers and ignorant. Then see how many papers would want to print it.
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just like saying all yanks are fat, love guns and stupid. No-one would get fired for that, infact most of the population of Britain would agree
Write an article saying all Americans are Fat, War Mongers and ignorant. Then see how many papers would want to print it.
well there u go. clarkston being tongue in cheek about the yanks as u explained. now if he'd called some other mob a bunch of infidels or whatever he'd still get a bollockign for it no matter how tongue in cheek he was being.
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To be used in humourous situations....

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it's no different from people saying the scottish have a shitty diet and we're a nation of alcoholics.
But you simply do not see full length articles that are making a very serious pointing stereotyping all Scots in a very negative way.

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do we drink too much and eat alot fo **** yes so even tho the comments may offend people u can't say that to an extent they arent true and u cant say that what killroy said wasn't true to an extent.
It would have been true if he'd refined his target.

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as i've said before he never said ALL arabs
He didn't specify anything other than Arabs.
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just like saying all yanks are fat, love guns and stupid. No-one would get fired for that, infact most of the population of Britain would agree
Write an article saying all Americans are Fat, War Mongers and ignorant. Then see how many papers would want to print it.
well there u go. clarkston being tongue in cheek about the yanks as u explained. now if he'd called some other mob a bunch of infidels or whatever he'd still get a bollockign for it no matter how tongue in cheek he was being.
Actually he insulted the Americans, English & a number of other countries all in one sentence. He wasn't illustrating a serious point.
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stereotypes exist for a reason.

it's no different from people saying the scottish have a shitty diet and we're a nation of alcoholics.

do we drink too much and eat alot fo **** yes so even tho the comments may offend people u can't say that to an extent they arent true and u cant say that what killroy said wasn't true to an extent.

as i've said before he never said ALL arabs
You don't get the amalgam thing do you?
The UK analogy to what he said would be to say that the people of the UK are terrorists because of what happens in Northern Ireland.

Anyway, he admitted he's been clumbsy with his words and that he didn't think all arabs where bombers, amputators, etc... One would expect a good journalist to pay attention to the words he uses on such a matter and in such a context, and IMO it's fair he gets suspended by the BBC if they want to maintain some cedibility as serious and neutral, but I won't call him a racist.

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The UK analogy to what he said would be to say that the people of the UK are terrorists because of what happens in Northern Ireland.
think thats the other way round actually...
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it's one and the same ponaural im generalising and so is he to take it as me sayign all englishmen are murderers or whatever is stupid just as taking some quotes out of context and twisting them to look like he said all arabs were suicide bombers is stupid.

end of the day some people think its racist, some people dont and some people don't care but what happened to the idea of free speech?
This is my point what happened to freedom of speech? this country is getting so politically correct that no one can say a thing without it being blown out of proportion.Kilroy should have been allowed to say what he wanted without all this hassle.
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