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Old 01-16-2006, 07:04 PM
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sadly here most Phd students are folk who have graduated from uni and don't want to get a job or still don't know what to do with themselves after 4 or 5 years of studying :-S

i think everyone should at least have some form of plan as to why they're at uni. maybe not necesarilly what they want to do exactly when they graduate but at least a good idea of what they're doing and why they're doing it.
I am taking an degree in economics, and that's just becuase i don't know what to do with my life.

Why should you have plan? what's wrong with just trying to get through the day? I don't want to work with economics.. I just do it because I have to do something, and from time to time, it's quite interesting.
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Old 01-16-2006, 07:10 PM
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I am taking an degree in economics, and that's just becuase i don't know what to do with my life.

Why should you have plan? what's wrong with just trying to get through the day? I don't want to work with economics.. I just do it because I have to do something, and from time to time, it's quite interesting.
I think it's ok as long as you're doing good and not just wasting your time. I don't know what job I will do in the future...I chose to study languages because it's my passion, because I like it
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Old 01-16-2006, 07:14 PM
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I am taking an degree in economics, and that's just becuase i don't know what to do with my life.

Why should you have plan? what's wrong with just trying to get through the day? I don't want to work with economics.. I just do it because I have to do something, and from time to time, it's quite interesting.

no offence intended and I dunno what the job market is like where you are but here if you don't have a plan you're kinda ****ed in most cases.

It speaks volumes that I know more people with degrees who work in shops and mcdonalds than actually in a career or vocation...

just on saturday night actually I was out with a guy with an honours degree in bio-chemical sciences or something similar who was working in river island.

The way its going over here tony blair wants 50% of school leavers to go to uni. in effect this achieves jack shti other than:

having lots of people doing degrees and getting themselves into debt that they wouldn't necesarilly want to do if there wasn't so much pressure put on them. When I was 16 i flirted with the idea of doing an apprenticeship to which my careers advisor pretty much told me not to because there's no work in trades anymore and you need a degree to get a decent job these days.... as already mentioned, most people i know with degrees dont have anythign close to a decent job especially for their level of education whilst all the guys who did go and do apprenticeships and are now time served are bring ing in 25k+ a year and are pretty much gauranteed work for life....

this is making people go to uniw ith no real idea of why they're their or what they want to do so when they leacve and theyve done a degre enot because they wanted to but because they felt they needed to they wind up working shitty jobs...

it also devalues degrees to an alarming extent.

I suppose I'm at an advantage in that i did something at college i loved but realised it wasn't goign to do me any favours in the real world, then I done a year fo accountancy that i loathed so I had to make the right choice or else I was ****ed and thus I planned exactly what i was going to do but as I said, I'm a rare exception that ive had the experience and hindsight to know to plan, I've pretty much got my education/ career goals planned out for the next 3 years, but i still think everyone should at least be doing a degree as a means to an end and not an end in itself.
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Old 01-16-2006, 07:45 PM
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I know you didn't mean to offend me!

But, I'm one of those easy-going persons with no real plans for the future.

The problem with employment is spreading throw the developed world, today there is 20 million people within the EU that are unemployed. The problem is (I guess) the speeding globalisation process. Within the next hundred years 1,4 billion people will be integrated in the global economy, with a wage of say 3 dollars a day. Those numbers gives us a hint of what to expect of the future. I would say that the situation is ****ed up! Would you work for 3 dollars a day? Would I?

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It also devalues degrees to an alarming extent.
This is huge problem, we get some kind of degree inflation, we have it here in Sweden as well. I guess it's a real I-country problem.

Well, buy the end of the day we all just want to get along.
I've never really liked plans, they just mess it all up. Just do what you feel for and do it well!
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Old 01-16-2006, 08:13 PM
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It speaks volumes that I know more people with degrees who work in shops and mcdonalds than actually in a career or vocation...

just on saturday night actually I was out with a guy with an honours degree in bio-chemical sciences or something similar who was working in river island.
But haven't you considered that perhaps they do have a plan but they simply can't find a suitable job? I always thought that was the case with most people. I also know people with an amazing background that are working somewhere like that just because that's all there is for them. Neither am I working in my "field" though it's closer than a McDonalds would be though.
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But haven't you considered that perhaps they do have a plan but they simply can't find a suitable job? .
That happens! What I do is so specialized that it's really hard to find a job, especially one that wouldn't require moving which brings up a whole other batch of financial issues.
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gah, donīt talk about studying, i am so worried already. i only started studying this weekend... but i should have realised earlier that itīs just not possible to start this late. my exam schedule for next week looks like this:

Mo: business admin. of hotels (no clue)
Tue: Sociology (shouldnt be too hard);
Wed: Information technology (easy - powerpoint, excel & front page)
Thu: Structure of the tourism market (not too hard but heaps of material & i dont know what to study)
Fri: History of Art (extremely hard, no clue as to how to distinguish greek & roman sculptures); Touristic territorial resources (never went to this class, so again: absolutely no clue as to what its about), Russian (alright)

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That happens! What I do is so specialized that it's really hard to find a job, especially one that wouldn't require moving which brings up a whole other batch of financial issues.
not to sound arrogant but it always amazes me how people are not willing to move elsewhere for a job, especially when they are single. jobs donīt come knocking on oneīs doorstep and whatīs more important: short term expenditure (i.e. moving homes) or long term income (i.e job in a different city)?
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Old 01-16-2006, 09:15 PM
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not to sound arrogant but it always amazes me how people are not willing to move elsewhere for a job, especially when they are single. jobs donīt come knocking on oneīs doorstep and whatīs more important: short term expenditure (i.e. moving homes) or long term income (i.e job in a different city)?
I Kind of agree. Nowadays it's all about what you are willing to give, and if you want a decent job, you must be able to move around a bit.

And I actually though that the Americans lived by the expression "follow the money"...
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Tue: Sociology (shouldnt be too hard);
You said ti all

when I had a sociology exam last year I was sitting answering it and thought, this is total crpa there's nothing im writing here that anyone whos never been in a sociology lecture couldn't write. I just hated the subject and never went to any of the lectures after the 1st couple of weeks but as long as you spout the bollocks they expect you to spout (which usually means just sounding like you want to save the world and end social injustice) and you're sorted.

It actually ended up being my strongest subject essay and exam mark wise :-S
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