meet this family

doesn't this sort of thing make u sick
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/stor...ws/news4.shtml

the epitomy of council estate scum.

That's too sad, and so shocking!

Sick! I hate people like that, and i know that some young people are very good mothers, but having a baby just because it was better than school and gave you something to do is horrible. I feel sorry for the children growing up there.

It doesnt surprise me, I work with these kind of people everyday.

I also feel sorry for the children who come out of these families, the amount of young people iv met who want to make a better life for themselves, but they get no support from their families who just expect them to leave school at 16 and get a council flat.

This is just disgusting. They shouldn't get anything, make them work!

Last night (monday) i saw the program mentioned in the article, the family from the article were just as bad in real life as they seemed but at least they had a special midwife come round to their house to teach them how to look after the babies properly, by the end they were doing a better job. One of the other young mums on the show who had had twins at 17 did seem to be a good mother though and had done all her exams and worked at the same time so she wasn't living on benefits and was going to become a nurse, so at least there are some good young mums who children will hopefully have a good life.

I also saw the documentary last night. I don't think it's never quite that simple though, just to say these people are sick or bad. They're the products of their environment, and highly ignorant. Instead of blaming these people, or even feeding them with so much money, that money should be aimed at educating working-class people of these things. It was horrible to see that Lizzy for example had no idea how to take care of a baby - and her mum and his boyfriend were just as clueless. What have these people been taught? When she was pregnant, didn't she get advices from midwifes BEFORE she actually got the baby? What about family planning clinics, don't they offer any help? And what about the doctor who prescribed Charleen pills when she was 12... Didn't he/she tell her anything???

I think instead of saying they're sick, we should acknowledge that it's a problem of the whole society, and address this issue. It's a disgrace that people that ignorant can be so plentiful in a welfare society. The money should be aimed at educating and activating these people, getting their arses off the sofa and participate. And school and health care system needs more funds specifically for this, as I said, to educate.

Phew. Turned out to be a lecture on British society...

^ but it's mnot a problem with the whole of British society just a select few pieces of scum.

B;aming it on your evironment is such a sociological cop out.

When I tell people where I'm from they're mortified because of the kind of place it is but I'm not running around dropping mini Jim's every month, signing on and living rent free courtesy of the taxman. Neither are any of my mates or most people I know who all grew up in the same or worse circumstances.

Some people are just pieces of driftwood by default and this family happens to be just that.

Apparently (some) people live off benefits because you can get more money though them than you can with some jobs which is part of the problem, if they paid less then less people would live off them. People should also get betted sex education, when i was at school we had none so i'm not surprised that there are loads of teenage mums. People should get less in benefits and the money should be spent on education and people like that midwife who taught them how to look after the baby.