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Old 06-19-2005, 01:34 AM
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some of whom had sex in bed with Jackson being in the same bed , sounds like nudity in their family was very open minded and accepted.

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sounds like sexual abuse to me.
in those days housing space was limited and it was considered normal to have sex whilst other members of your family were in the room. Bit like kids not being related getting off with each other at parties etc, thats not considered sexual abuse is it.

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some of whom had sex in bed with Jackson being in the same bed , sounds like nudity in their family was very open minded and accepted.

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sounds like sexual abuse to me.
in those days housing space was limited and it was considered normal to have sex whilst other members of your family were in the room. Bit like kids not being related getting off with each other at parties etc, thats not considered sexual abuse is it.

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Just because something is considered normal among pedophiles, child abusers and morons, doesn't make it actually 'normal'!

Sexual conduct on or between children IS sexual abuse. I thought you worked in that field?
just because space is limited, doesn't mean one needs to subject children to sexual abuse. Because some people find it normal, doesn't make it right either, nor does it NOT make it abuse.

Sexual abuse comes in many shapes and forms, sex between children is one of them as it always is non-consentual. Kids getting off at parties - is still considered sexual abuse if they are indeed children. I thought you worked in that field?
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he's innocent as proven by the trial, get over it.
That's a bit naïf to say the least though, isn't it?
its spelt naive
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he's innocent as proven by the trial, get over it.
That's a tad ignorant isn't it?! The whole, "If it doesn't affect me, I don't care!" attitude.
where did i in anyway indicate either of those statements. Saying he's innocent, because he's just been proven innocent by trial, is not ignorance.

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Tell the kids Jacko abused and all the other children assaulted by paedophiles who have gotten away with it to just, "get over it!" you selfish gimp!

Where did i bring in "other paedophiles" into this thread?! Why not actually read my post before jumping down my throat.

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he's innocent as proven by the trial, get over it.
That's a bit naïf to say the least though, isn't it?
its spelt naive
Well, then it's spelt wrong, because the original French is like that

its should be spelt It's too

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he's innocent as proven by the trial, get over it.
That's a tad ignorant isn't it?! The whole, "If it doesn't affect me, I don't care!" attitude.
where did i in anyway indicate either of those statements. Saying he's innocent, because he's just been proven innocent by trial, is not ignorance.
Yes it is. Just because a popular jury says he's innocent doesn't mean he absolutely is. Imagine you're accused wrongly of something - would you then believe you're guilty just because a popular jury or a judge said so? Many factors come into play.
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Where did i bring in "other paedophiles" into this thread?! Why not actually read my post before jumping down my throat.

FOOL.
Your statement that, "because he was proven innocent means that he is", encompasses the notion that all true paedophiles that have gotten away with abuse are as 'innocent' as Jacko! I included that extended inference because that is what your twisted statement implies.

I did read your post but apparently you didn't read mine properly.

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That's a tad ignorant isn't it?! The whole, "If it doesn't affect me, I don't care!" attitude.
where did i in anyway indicate either of those statements. Saying he's innocent, because he's just been proven innocent by trial, is not ignorance.
but he hasn't been proven innocent.

He's been found not guilty ----- VERY different from 'proven innocent'. A jury can never prove that someone is innocent. All they can decide whether or not there is evidence enough to find him guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Simply because there is still reasonable doubt does not mean he is innocent. (All the jurors I saw giving interviews on TV happened to say that they believe that he molested children, but in this case, the evidence was not 100% convincing --- get it? Not even the jury thought he was innocent)

Not sure how things work in your country, but this is how it is in the US - now stop saying he's been proven innocent cause that makes you look like a FOOL!!!
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haha calm down ladies.

MJ was put under trial for the molestation of gavin whatever and found not guilty, thats all i need to say.

Have you ever wondered why, if Mj were a paedophile, that only a few cases have actually made the press? All the hundreds and hundreds of kids that have been round to Neverland, including many orphans and terminally ill kids, and there are only several cases that arise, doesnt sound like the behaviour of a paedophile to me.
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