Mikes thought of the day - Since when did Diplomacy.....

ugly_queen_from_mars · #21 03-18-2003, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSambo

for anyone who has seen the movie 'the princess bride' ... the main reason behind the war is simple....

"my name is George dubya, you embarassed my father. prepare to die".

this talk of war is personal, political and economical. There is no desire to save innocent Iraqi people, there is no making the world safe, there is no protecting the other nations....its all about hypocracy.

i'm glad to see that at least some americans understand what's going on. i don't think it's personal though.
anyway now that the war is a matter of days, even hours, the US has told every reporter to leave the country because they don't want any publicity to the crimes they're gonna do (like when the americans bombed a shelter full of innocent people during the gulf war).
you don't save innocent ppl by killing them neither you go to war to prevent another hypothetical war (better say threaten).
also this war is completely unlawful. but who can stop the usa 's terrorism?i guess noone.

Mousebounce · #22 03-18-2003, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I am just annoyed we r being fed all this last gasp diplomacy - we really don't want war crap.

I'm not stupid - I'd respect them alot more if they told the truth!!

Me too. Politicians not telling the truth seems to be way to normal in today's world.

Jovi2003 · #23 03-18-2003, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Mean - we want this to happen & if everyone disagrees - we're gonna do it anyway & blame it on a breakdown of Diplomacy???

Since when did Diplomacy mean getting to War ASAP???

Why am I taken to be an idiot?? (Don't answer that one

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Mike

Hmmm.........18 UN resolutions and 12 years later. Yeah, I guess they are rushing things.

The UN has proven itself to be wimpy and indecisive. There is nothing for them to say anymore........

Jovi2003 · #24 03-18-2003, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawn

So do we here in England!!!!!!!!! I dont agree with this war, the Iraqs support Saddam so why should we save people that dont want to be saved.

You are talking about people who are basically brainwashed. Saddam decides what they will watch on TV, and even then he puts his own spin on it.

ugly_queen_from_mars · #25 03-18-2003, 03:15 AM

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So do we here in England!!!!!!!!! I dont agree with this war, the Iraqs support Saddam so why should we save people that dont want to be saved.

You are talking about people who are basically brainwashed. Saddam decides what they will watch on TV, and even then he puts his own spin on it.

that's what happens in the US and UK, too. the media never tell you the truth and almost everything concerning this war is being propangadized. they don't tell you and they don't show you everything.
of course it's not like iraq but the result is almost the same. that's why some simple citizens are not against this war or even worse they want this war.

Jovi2003 · #26 03-18-2003, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ugly_queen_from_mars

that's what happens in the US and UK, too. the media never tell you the truth and almost everything concerning this war is being propangadized. they don't tell you and they don't show you everything.
of course it's not like iraq but the result is almost the same. that's why some simple citizens are not against this war or even worse they want this war.

That's right. I forgot that Greece is the only country to report the truth.

Did you ever think that maybe the Iraqis want this war because they are tired of being tortured by their tyrant leader? Maybe they had one too many family members tortured and then killed for their liking. Wake up.

ugly_queen_from_mars · #27 03-18-2003, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ugly_queen_from_mars

that's what happens in the US and UK, too. the media never tell you the truth and almost everything concerning this war is being propangadized. they don't tell you and they don't show you everything.
of course it's not like iraq but the result is almost the same. that's why some simple citizens are not against this war or even worse they want this war.

That's right. I forgot that Greece is the only country to report the truth.

Did you ever think that maybe the Iraqis want this war because they are tired of being tortured by their tyrant leader? Maybe they had one too many family members tortured and then killed for their liking. Wake up.

if the greek government and the media had any kind of interests in iraq and wanted this war to happen they wouldn't tell us the truth either... that's politics
yeah you're right... i should wake up.... those ppl want to be killed by the US instead of saddam. they'll be looking up to the sky anticipating for the moment that the salutary american bombs will fall and destroy their houses, their hospitals etc. they will be praising the american soldiers for killing their children. you're so damn right... why hadn't i thought about it?

Jovi2003 · #28 03-18-2003, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ugly_queen_from_mars

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Originally Posted by Jovi2003

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Originally Posted by ugly_queen_from_mars

that's what happens in the US and UK, too. the media never tell you the truth and almost everything concerning this war is being propangadized. they don't tell you and they don't show you everything.
of course it's not like iraq but the result is almost the same. that's why some simple citizens are not against this war or even worse they want this war.

That's right. I forgot that Greece is the only country to report the truth.

Did you ever think that maybe the Iraqis want this war because they are tired of being tortured by their tyrant leader? Maybe they had one too many family members tortured and then killed for their liking. Wake up.

if the greek government and the media had any kind of interests in iraq and wanted this war to happen they wouldn't tell us the truth either... that's politics
yeah you're right... i should wake up.... those ppl want to be killed by the US instead of saddam. they'll be looking up to the sky anticipating for the moment that the salutary american bombs will fall and destroy their houses, their hospitals etc. they will be praising the american soldiers for killing their children. you're so damn right... why hadn't i thought about it?

Oh, please, tell me you don't actually believe that Greece tells the truth.

How old are you, incidentally? If some Iraqis are wanting war, or agreeing with it, who are you to say it is bad for them? How do *you* know how they are feeling? Let's talk about that propaganda again......

walter · #29 03-18-2003, 08:43 AM

to Mousebounce:
if UN is a joke, is Bush Bozzo? he should be nice is a clown cloth. USA wants to be the leader of the world? take you spaceships, go to mars and let us live free!

Dawn · #30 03-18-2003, 02:24 PM

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You are talking about people who are basically brainwashed. Saddam decides what they will watch on TV, and even then he puts his own spin on it.[/quote]

You are right their information is controlled, not to the extent ours is. UK/US have been dropping leaflets telling them we will help them free them etc , but they think we are brainwashing them. So they wil lattack us when we try and free them. You have to give them info and a choice still. This way we are taking the choice away from them.

Dawn

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