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Old 12-10-2005, 09:54 PM
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no i have read the post ice and it's not too far removed from illegally downloading the music itself.

people want cheap music, they download songs instead of buying the cd's

people want cheap tabs, they go onto tab sites instead of buying the official tab book.

but its the same old arguemnt, whats the difference in me sharing my mp3s with someone else over a network on the internet and me sharing a cd of my own with some mate in uni who will probably burn it, their both illegal in their eyes. Or my guitar tutor teaching me Layla on the guitar and tabbing his interpretation out for me to learn rather than me wasting £15 on a tab book.


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Old 12-11-2005, 12:48 AM
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It's not a hoax Ice, here is a link to the article on the afterdawn site:

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7141.cfm

Now it's sheet music companies that are losing out. They even cite the xerox machine as a culprit for loss of "potential income". Let's see - how about you sue me because I can't spend much money this Christmas due to the high heat and gas prices. After all, that is loss of "potential income".
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:09 AM
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Lyrics and Tabulature do nothing to take away profits.

I just may need to look into legal action myself, there are laws for providing access....since I need lyrics. The internet has been a boon in that regard....providing lyrics for albums and songs that previously had none available. Classic albums such as Back In Black, Blizzard of Ozz, and Hysteria all lack lyric sheets within the album packaging. Crush had no lyrics.

They are really getting out of control. There is just no justification for this.
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Lyrics and Tabulature do nothing to take away profits.

Doesn't Bon Jovi (and any other band) earn money from the tab books they sell?

I think it is too much as well, but I also see where the money is lost/not to be won. In the end though, I'm sure it's not a profitable strategy to sue everything that's not an official release.


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it might seem over the top but at the end of the day, these companies are losing money.

think about it. if you really want to leasrn a song you can't work out yourself, you used to have to buy the tab books, now you just jump onto olga or tabcrawler and it's there ie you're using that instead of buying the product fromt he company.

i really don't see why people get so pissed off at this. every single company and industry is entitled to their fair income from the market they exist in, just becauseit's easier to exploit music than most other products doesn't make it right.
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Yes, but unless those tabulature books have been scanned or copied and put online.....it's someone elses translation. The official product is still for sale. It's the equivalent of guitarists teaching each other the songs. It's just easier to do now.

It's the same as going after the mp3s of the Bon Jovi covers at Dry County with the rationale that they are losing money on the official studio releases.
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Doesn't Bon Jovi (and any other band) earn money from the tab books they sell?
Very little. It's not the actual song they're selling but an intepretation of it. So yes, they do get money, but nowhere near as much as from a CD.

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I think it is too much as well, but I also see where the money is lost/not to be won. In the end though, I'm sure it's not a profitable strategy to sue everything that's not an official release.
I don't see the mone being lost. People who want the tabs will buy the books anyway, most tab sites are just a lot faster than the official machine. And for example, you can't get Bon Jovi's first two albums as tab books anywhere. Slippery and New Jersy are out of print anf KTF is really hard to get. There's no tab book for BOG, DA or UD. If I make tabs of those and offer them free of charge, who loses?

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It's the same as going after the mp3s of the Bon Jovi covers at Dry County with the rationale that the they are losing money on the official studio releases.
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you can't get Bon Jovi's first two albums as tab books anywhere. Slippery and New Jersy are out of print anf KTF is really hard to get. There's no tab book for BOG, DA or UD. If I make tabs of those and offer them free of charge, who loses?

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Exactly!

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it's not the same because one isn't a substitute for the real product.

a tab transcription is even if it's just an interpretation.

it's still loss of earning whichever way you look at it.

if you lose potential income personally for whatever reason you're entitled to pursue it in court, why are companies any different?
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