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Old 12-11-2005, 02:09 PM
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it's not the same because one isn't a substitute for the real product.

a tab transcription is even if it's just an interpretation.

it's still loss of earning whichever way you look at it.

if you lose potential income personally for whatever reason you're entitled to pursue it in court, why are companies any different?
So when a customer gets up and helps themselves to a cup of coffee and serves other tables out of courtesy because the waiter was neglecting to provide the service, the waiter should be paid for loss of potential income?

They get paid for the tabs they provide for sale.

They need to stick with combating bootleg DVDs of movies that are being sold...not freely shared translations. This is like filming your own home version of Fellowship of the Ring and passing it around for free, then being sued for loss of sales of the Peter Jackson film.

I'll keep coming up with these analogies..even if it drives you crazy.
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:35 PM
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you can keep coming up with stupid analogies all you want.

you or anyone else making their own version of a film and putting it on the internet is not going to stop people going to see the real thing.

putting tabs ont he net can and does stop people buying the real books and thus losing the publisher AND ARTIST money.
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:17 PM
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Well, let's take it a bit further:
http://www.unhappybirthday.com/
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My analogies are anything but stupid. They are accurate.

Online tabs, for the most part, are basic, they simply show the fingering positions, vibrato, slides, etc. Lyrics are only used to approximate.

Official books come complete with full sheet music clearly transcribed. The official product, when it exists, is definately preferable...assuming that it is accurate (some have been ass.) The product is superior. You get what you pay for.
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Well, let's take it a bit further:
http://www.unhappybirthday.com/
LMAO! Perfect.
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My analogies are anything but stupid. They are accurate.

Online tabs, for the most part, are basic, they simply show the fingering positions, vibrato, slides, etc. Lyrics are only used to approximate.

Official books come complete with full sheet music clearly transcribed. The official product, when it exists, is definately preferable...assuming that it is accurate (some have been ass.) The product is superior. You get what you pay for.
it's not a matter or difference in quality. obviously people are prepared to watch inferior quality copy dvds instead of going to the cinema.

the point is that people will use these (regardless of quality) instead of buying the book itself thus the publisher loses income, these sites are contributing to this.

if you look at a tab site, are you going to go and buy the book later? most of the time the answer is a resounding no.
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the point is that people will use these (regardless of quality) instead of buying the book itself thus the publisher loses income, these sites are contributing to this.
They would never buy the book. And what about libraries? Should they be outlawed as well? They only pay once but many get to loan the tab book out.
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if you look at a tab site, are you going to go and buy the book later? most of the time the answer is a resounding no.
Would you have bought the book if the tab site didn't exist? Every time, the answer would be no.

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sometimes i find books confusing whereas tabs can be much simpler
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If it keeps progressing like this the next stage will be to bug everyones homes and then demand royalties when they play a song themself.

As people have said here a tab online is not only a persons interpretation, and often not totally accurate, but it is in a different format to standard sheet music anyway. Most people simply prefer online tabs to sheet music as they are more simple to understand, and often more detailed.

They should focus more on stopping downloads of music, which is potentially losing them a lot more money than people distributing lyrics and tabs.
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Very little. It's not the actual song they're selling but an intepretation of it. So yes, they do get money, but nowhere near as much as from a CD.
Ok, but with the present state of this industry, at least the official version of it, there's no small savings. They actually might go after every dollar that can be kept.

After thinking this a little more over, I think it's not a question of money lost but a question of money to be made. The real aim is probably not to sue the tab sites but probably to make them charge the tab access.


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