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Old 08-14-2003, 01:22 AM
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I am doing a paper with some other students about education in different countries. Well we have some here.
Would you all help me out please,
Can youtell me about what age start kids to go to school and till when, How is that school called.
After that they go to?????and for how lomg?
And finally they go to university I guess.
I need ages, timetables, names of schools, and what is teached there. Uniforms?
If kids have a learning or behaviuorproblem, what happens to them? where do they go?
I need to knoe all about the whole educationsystem, so please help me out.
Germans, finnish, uk and usa, ausrtia, canada, israel and who else would be here.
You can mail it to me or just makean answer to this topic. Maybe some others like ro read it?
Anyway if you mail me ingejbj_@hotmail.com
Thank you so much for helping me out. I only have a few weeks to finnish this thing
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Old 08-14-2003, 01:40 AM
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School starts at age 5/6 in the UK. First school is 5-11, then its 11-16 then college is 16-18 a year out between college and university, and university starts at 19- however long the course is.
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In the USA, kids start school at about age 5 or 6. Depending on the school system a kid can go to elementary school for 6 years, middle school for 3 years, and high school for 4 years; or elementary school for 7 years, middle school for 2 years, and high school for 4 years. In some places middle school is called junior high school.

There are also public schools and private schools. Public schools are payed for with government money and are open to the public. Private schools are more upscale and parents have to pay for their kids to go there. Kids in private schools usually have to wear uniforms and kids in public schools don't.

My explination was breif, but I hope it helped.
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School starts at age 5/6 in the UK. First school is 5-11, then its 11-16 then college is 16-18 a year out between college and university, and university starts at 19- however long the course is.
i started school age 4 i'm certain... and before then there is nursery of course for i think 2 years. also you don't necessarily have a gap out after college

university for something like history is 3 years... and then you have the option to do a graduate course
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Old 08-14-2003, 11:26 AM
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In france it starts when the child is 3, nursery school for three years but it's not an obligation, but really i think it's something like 80% of the kids who go to this school. After, 6 years old kids must be at school or must receive an education, it's 4 years of primary school. After when they are in general 11, it's collège (lower secondary school), four years too, and Lycée (upper secondary school) and FAC (uni). Some years ago, another languages were for the collège, but since some years it started before (just a bit) in some towns, and depends of the academy and the director of the school, but it can start at the nursery school. Now it's current that the children in ce2, (second year of primary school) have at least 1 hour of english per week, the government is apparently trying to do some efforts same for the computer, in France i think it's only 1/3 of the family who have a pc at home so for the internet .......... 1/8 ?? maybe ??? But schools with proper computer room is more than rare, more often you have 2 or 3 pc's for a class, which is 28-30 kids !!

For the kids who have problem about learning or behaviour, we have something like "psychological help" it's free and it's also a sort of surveillance. Too more children in my opinion are sended to the orthophonist (not sure about the english name) to speak better, it's amazing how much, it's ridiculous, there's something else under this i guess.
Kids like mine who have problems because of their IQ are sended to private schools, we have to pay for these, the pedagogy is different, but it's still a "normal school", not like these very select ones with kids with IQ not under 160, James is not at this point ... not yet. Once again, we are helped by a psychologist to see the evolution and to find the best way for him.
The basis will stay the same like in the other elementary school, french maths history sports (just 1 hours x 2 in a week in general) but he will have more english, not just because he's bilingual but also because he needs something more to "feed" his hunger of learning, and paint and more of everything + some things he's gonna choose (music - chests club etc ...) And the discipline is .. how can i say .... more surveillance but more psychology too, very close to the kids and with the parents too, which i think is very important beacuse in our public schools, i you have the chance to be with a good teacher it's great but if it's not the case, there's nothing you can do ! it's getting worse and worse here i think!
OK i'll stop, if you want to know something, let me know
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2-4: Optional nursery school.
4-7: Infant school, containing Reception, Year 1 and Year 2. In Year 2 the kids sit their SATS Key Stage 1.
7-11: Junior school, containing Years 3, 4, 5 and 6. In Year 6 the kids sit their SATS Key Stage 2.
11-16: Senior school, containing Years 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11. In Year 9 the kids sit their SATS Key Stage 3. In Years 10 and 11 they do their GCSE courses.
16-18: Optional college. In the first year they sit their AS levels, in the second year they sit their A2 levels.

After that, there is university for those who want to/need to go. This can be for anything between 1 to 5 years, with around 3 years being the most common.

The Boswells School

I attend college at The Boswells School in Chelmsford, which is in Essex just north of London. During a normal day, we have 5 one hour lessons, with 1 half an hour tutorial session, 2 five minute registration sessions, 1 twenty minute break and 1 fifty minute lunch time. School starts at 8:55am and ends at 3:55pm. The only exceptions are Thursdand Friday, where we only have four lessons and school ends at 2:50pm.

Between Years 7 and 11 you have to wear a blazer, tie, white shirt, black trousers and black shoes, although after Year 11 it's just casual wear. The biggest problem in our school is probably the litter, and most of the students are well behaved.

Subjects

From what I can remember, all of the following subjects are taught at Boswells, but a lot of them are optional:

Mathematics
English Language
English Literature
French
Spanish
German
Biology
Chemistry
Physics
History
Geography
Religious Education
Physical Education
Music
Art
Drama
Dance
Design Technology (woodwork and that kinda stuff)
ICT (computers)
Textiles (sewing)
Cooking
Business Studies
Child Development
Media Studies
Sociology
Law
Psychology
Economics

I hope that's all you need. Let me know if you need anything else.
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Old 08-14-2003, 01:58 PM
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thanks for taking the time to write it all down, waiing for some other countries as well, but I am making a start now. It is hard after touring, vacation and lots of sun to sart again, but now I have to.
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2-4: Optional nursery school.
4-7: Infant school, containing Reception, Year 1 and Year 2. In Year 2 the kids sit their SATS Key Stage 1.
7-11: Junior school, containing Years 3, 4, 5 and 6. In Year 6 the kids sit their SATS Key Stage 2.
11-16: Senior school, containing Years 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11. In Year 9 the kids sit their SATS Key Stage 3. In Years 10 and 11 they do their GCSE courses.
16-18: Optional college. In the first year they sit their AS levels, in the second year they sit their A2 levels.

After that, there is university for those who want to/need to go. This can be for anything between 1 to 5 years, with around 3 years being the most common.

The Boswells School

I attend college at The Boswells School in Chelmsford, which is in Essex just north of London. During a normal day, we have 5 one hour lessons, with 1 half an hour tutorial session, 2 five minute registration sessions, 1 twenty minute break and 1 fifty minute lunch time. School starts at 8:55am and ends at 3:55pm. The only exceptions are Thursdand Friday, where we only have four lessons and school ends at 2:50pm.

Between Years 7 and 11 you have to wear a blazer, tie, white shirt, black trousers and black shoes, although after Year 11 it's just casual wear. The biggest problem in our school is probably the litter, and most of the students are well behaved.

Subjects

From what I can remember, all of the following subjects are taught at Boswells, but a lot of them are optional:

Mathematics
English Language
English Literature
French
Spanish
German
Biology
Chemistry
Physics
History
Geography
Religious Education
Physical Education
Music
Art
Drama
Dance
Design Technology (woodwork and that kinda stuff)
ICT (computers)
Textiles (sewing)
Cooking
Business Studies
Child Development
Media Studies
Sociology
Law
Psychology
Economics

I hope that's all you need. Let me know if you need anything else.
geez dude, you liked school i take it? i didnt, well, it didnt like me.

i did like a taster week at college too, doing my music course..god dammit i dont fit in there... id be happy going out and trying to get a job but my brother just did like fantastic on his AS or whateva the hell it is and now everyone expects something amazing from me
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From the age of 3 to 5/6 most children go to Kindergarten. This is optional and classed as Pre-school education. In some parts of Germany special types of transition from pre-school to primary education (Vorklassen, Schulkindergärten) exist.

Primary education (Grundschule) takes place 1st - 4th grade (age 6 to 10). Grades 5 and 6 constitute a phase of particular support, supervision and orientation with regard to the pupil's further educational path and it's particular focuses. In some parts of Germany, the orientation stage is organised as a seperate organisational unit independent of the standard school types.

Secondary Level 1 education starts at grade 6 or 7 (depending on which part of Germany you live in). Pupil's go to Hauptschule, Realschule, Gesamtschule or Gymnasium. Usually pupils with the lowest grades go to Hauptschule and can get a First General Education Qualification (Hauptschule leaving certificate) after grade 9 (age 15). Realschule must be left after grade 10 (age 16) and offers no further education. Pupil's receive the "Mittlerer Schulabschluß" (Realschule leaving certificate) and can then go to a Gesamtschule or Gymnasium if their grades are good enough.

Secondary Level 2

students who leave the Hauptschule and Realschule can go on to the Vocational Education in the Berufsschule and training - on - the - job (Dual System).
All other student go on to the "Gymnasiale Oberstufe" to study for their Abitur. This can be obtained in different school types: Gymnasium or Gesamtschule.

Once students have the Abitur they can receive higher education as followed:

Universities

The universities, technical universities (Technische Universitaten/Technische Hochschulen), comprehensive universities (Universitaten-Gesamthochschulen ) and institutions offering only specific universitylevel subjects are responsible for conducting research, teaching and studies as well as promoting highly qualified young scientists and artists. Therefore, they are entitled to award doctorates (Promotionsrecht) and to certify additional academic achievements in research and teaching of a specific discipline (Habilitationsrecht). They offer a range of subjects from theology and the humanities to law, economic and social sciences, natural and engineering sciences, agricultural science and medicine. However, universities also comprehend institutions specializing in medicine, veterinary medicine, administration science and sports science as well as two Bundeswehr universities for officers in the federal armed forces.

The UniversitatenGesamthochschulen (comprehensive universities), in Hesse and North-Rhine/Westphalia combine under one roof research, teaching and study functions otherwise carried out by universities, Fachhochschulen and sometimes also Kunsthochschulen and Musikhochschulen (colleges of art and music). The distinguishing feature of UniversitatenGesamthochschulen is that they offer integrated study programmes (integrierte Studiengange) combining within a tiered system in terms of content and duration the educational objectives of university courses and the degree programmes of Fachhochschulen. Therefore, UniversitatenGesamthochschulen run study programmes of varying durations leading to different degrees.

Fachhochschulen (Universities of Applied Sciences)

Fachhochschulen serve a specific purpose of their own in the context of the function common to all higher education institutions of providing an academic education. Most of their courses of study are offered in the engineering sciences, economics and business studies, agricultural science, social welfare, librarianship, documentation and information science as well as design and form. The courses of study themselves and the organization of teaching and study are very much oriented to the demands of professional practice. The research and development work performed at the Fachhochschulen is likewise aimed at specific applications and is complemented by scientific consultancy work and organized technology transfer activities.

Padagogische Hochschulen (Teacher Training Universities)

Padagogische Hochschulen train teachers for Grundschulen and certain types of lower secondary school as well as Sonderschulen (special schools). There is also a course leading to a Diplom in education sciences (Diplom-Padagoge ). All other types of teachers are trained at universities, technical universities Technischen Universitaten/ Technischen Hochschulen, Gesamthochschulen as well as Kunsthochschulen and Musikhochschulen (colleges of art and music). In the 1970s, most of the Padagogische Hochschulen became part of universities. Nowadays they exist in their own right only in three Lander (Baden-Wurttemberg, SchleswigHolstein and Thuringia).

Kunsthochschulen (Colleges of Art) and Musikhochschulen (Colleges of Music)

Kunsthochschulen and Musikhochschulen offer courses of study in the visual, design and performing arts and in musical disciplines, some of them even in the related scientific disciplines (science of art, history of art, musicology, history of music, music education).
It is one of the main distinguishing features of a Kunsthochschule or Musikhochschule that the artistic training takes the form of individual instruction or instruction in small groups (classes).
Art and music courses of studies lead to a Diplom (first degree), to the nomination of a Meisterschuler (member of a master class), the kunstlerische Reifeprufung (artistic final examination) or the "Konzertexamen".

Apart from the above-mentioned courses for artistic training the colleges of art and music also offer teacher training courses of study entitling graduates to start a career as an art or music teacher at school after having passed the relevant Staatsprufung and completed the Vorbereitungsdienst.

Berufsakademien (Professional Colleges)

Berufsakademien (Professional Colleges) combine a three-year academic education and training on the job.

Distance learning

Apart from higher education institutions which require the presence of the student, there are others offering correspondence courses. The Fernuniversitat-Gesamthochschule Hagen, for instance, runs university-level courses leading both to Diplom and Magister degrees.


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geez dude, you liked school i take it? i didnt, well, it didnt like me.

i did like a taster week at college too, doing my music course..god dammit i dont fit in there... id be happy going out and trying to get a job but my brother just did like fantastic on his AS or whateva the hell it is and now everyone expects something amazing from me
I wouldn't say I like school, but it's alright. I'm around all my friends, I can actually relate to some of the teachers, and I'm really looking forward to next year because I'm studying 4 subjects I have a genuine interest in.

I just typed all that stuff out because I was bored, lol.
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