[Dutch]

Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8

As for the other points, I wasn't trying to wind anyone up. I was making an opinion based on reading and listening to accounts and interviews (as I actually quite openly stated). If the actual events didn't mirror what was reported then fair enough but I passed opinion based on the fact that it was obviously a big enough bust-up to warrant an entire topic on the BBC sport website and for Rafa to be directly quizzed in-depth about it after the game. I would have seen it on MOTD if I hadn't been playing a gig on Saturday night and in a band rehearsal for 4hrs yesterday evening.

Ok fair enough and despite respecting your opinion I still think this has been blown out of all proportion. Nothing really happened other than a coming together and a slight push - hence why neither player was booked. Despite that said and with it being Liverpool and one of the top four then I should have expected nothing less. And my opinion still stands which was Rafa's slight criticism of the players after the game was more than enough and didn't merit any further condemnation or punishment.

[liljovi93]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Ok fair enough and despite respecting your opinion I still think this has been blown out of all proportion. Nothing really happened other than a coming together and a slight push - hence why neither player was booked. Despite that said and with it being Liverpool and one of the top four then I should have expected nothing less. And my opinion still stands which was Rafa's slight criticism of the players after the game was more than enough and didn't merit any further condemnation or punishment.

I know, it wasn't even that bad.

[RS8MB0R8]

To be honest it doesn't surprise me that the media has tried to exaggerate the situation and rile people up when there's nothing to the incident.

[KeepTheFaith2211]

How did everyone's team do today, then?

[liljovi93]

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211

How did everyone's team do today, then?

Won 3-1. Keane scored to stop Reina getting golden gloves for fourth year on the run

Sorry to hear about Newcastle, mate.

[JerseyboyUK]

We beat Newcastle to send them crashing into the Championship and most probably into financial meltdown. GOOD TIMES!

Today was probably Gareth Barry's last game in a Villa shirt after 11 great years. BAD TIMES!!

[liljovi93]

Originally Posted by JerseyboyUK

We beat Newcastle to send them crashing into the Championship and most probably into financial meltdown. GOOD TIMES!

Today was probably Gareth Barry's last game in a Villa shirt after 11 great years. BAD TIMES!!

I still think Barry will stay. Just got that feeling.

If he goes for 8mill then that is a bargain.

[KeepTheFaith2211]

Aston Villa didn't even try yesterday, and they won very comfortably. Then again, I don't think Newcastle tried either, second half was disgusting.

I don't think you will see Newcastle back in the Premiership for a very long time.

[liljovi93]

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211

Aston Villa didn't even try yesterday, and they won very comfortably. Then again, I don't think Newcastle tried either, second half was disgusting.

I don't think you will see Newcastle back in the Premiership for a very long time.

I don't either.

First half Newcastle weren't bad, then they just lost it.

[KeepTheFaith2211]

I have been thinking about this for a very long time, and it could go one of two ways.

1. Newcastle will finally sort themselves out, the owner and chairman won't think that any average Joe(Kinnear?) can come in and lead the club. They will get rid of the deadwood, get players in who wnat to do well and rebuild gradually.

Or

2. We will be in League 1 within three years, and be the next Leeds United.

Personally, I think option no.2 is the most likely but who knows.