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Old 12-14-2004, 10:24 AM
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No it is very different here Jess. Most Americans don't know anything about Montessori schools and therefore they are not very snobby or prestigious. They are much less expensive here than the prep schools, on the East Coast anyway. Most people here would not send their kids to this type of school unless they were familiar with Montessori principles as I was.

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Lucky you. Here it's very very expensive and most of the kids can't go if they don't speak english ! the pedagogy is just great there, i wish i could aford it for my two kids. But it's not really known either in France, just by the "english native speaker community" if you see what i mean.
James wanted to stay there, i understand why ! the system to put children by level not by age is simply a great idea. And that's just one thing i like in this.
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Old 12-14-2004, 12:31 PM
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Jim Bon Jovi, you never cease to amaze me son.

I should say before I start that I work in a private school.

I get the impression you are quite clever, (well you tell us you are) yet it seems your ignorance knows no bounds sometimes. The job of a school is not to get rid of the deadwood so that the higher kids can acheive, it is to enable each child to reach their full potential. If you seriously think that kids'over acheive' because their parents pay for some or all of their education then you are deluding yourself, possibly out of jealousy that you weren't given the opportunities rich kids have had.

All credit to you for getting good grades in a rubbish school, you are obviously a very self motivated learner, which is great, for you! Most kids aren't self motivated, they need the best bringing out of them, and in my experience of working in a private school, and being taught in a pretty rubbish state school, private schools do it much better!

Maybe you are right that the money is a factor in the teachers doing this, but thats not really the point, if you send your kid to a private school, you don't care what peoples motivations are, you just want them to do well.

And as for all the other comments about the clientele of private schools, well if you as parents can't instill a sense of value and worth to things, then you aren't doing your jojb properly. If you are a good enough parent, this should not even be an issue when deciding. It's just a form of reverse snobbery.
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Old 12-14-2004, 02:45 PM
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I didn't say that's necesarilly the way it's supposed to happen but in state schools it does wether you like it or not.

I have a mate Stuart who I literally regard as a genius, He's doing physics masters at Glasgow uni. do you think the teachers were more bothered about helping him reach his full potentiala nd get on a course he deserved to get on despite the shitty school or some idiot that doesn't even realise how beneficial the help they're getting is?

It's got nothign to do with jealousy, that;'s just how things work, i loved high school and have not one complaint about it whatsoever and wouldn't have changed my time there for anything.

I've not made any comments about folk from private schools either except to say you get smart people and dumb ****s there just the same as you do in state schools.
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the teachers don't "pass" the kids themselves in private schools but they'll make sure even the idiots with rich parents pass.
what kind of private schools do u have over there!? I went to a private school and believe me, the "richer" kids that were morons were flunked without mercy..didnt matter how rich their parents were...of course i do realize not all schools work that way..

I think the option of going for private or public education depends on the situation u find urself in, and even wich country u live in.

For example, here public schools arent much of an option for most, because our public education system SUX!..so basically u have to go to a private school in order to get a better education. Ppl here either pay for private schools or get a very mediocre preparation in public schools (of course, there are exceptions), wich is VERY sad.

I´m a product of both private school and private university, and contrary to what someone said in an earlier post i dont think i´m a bitch ...there are mean spoiled girls same as all schools, but to say all are bitches is not true..

I would send my kid (if i ever have one) to the best possible option i have, be it a private school or a public one i dont really care, as long as the school offers the level of education i desire for my lil brats
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Old 12-14-2004, 07:07 PM
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And as for all the other comments about the clientele of private schools, well if you as parents can't instill a sense of value and worth to things, then you aren't doing your jojb properly. If you are a good enough parent, this should not even be an issue when deciding. It's just a form of reverse snobbery.
It doesn’t matter what values a parent instills in their kids, once they hit a certain age, peer pressure can be downright devastating. While peer pressure will always be a factor, as a parent, I try to keep it at a minimum. Fortunately for us, our public schools in this district are very good and I think the level or peer pressure in elementary and middle school are fairly low, translating into a relaxed and positive learning environment. High School is a different matter, but there will not be much choice about it…..

When I was talking about private schools and their clientele, I was not talking about the Montessori schools, as I view them as ‘normal’ schools with ‘normal’ kids (though, yes of course they are private, but not the private I was referring to). The people I try not to associate with wouldn’t dream of sending their children to a Montessori school as it is viewed to be for ‘normal’ people. I am talking about the (mostly religious based) prep schools that only the very wealthy and the wanna-be wealthy send their kids to. I would not be friends with these people, so I don’t want my child to be forced to develop friendships with them.

I, myself went to a private catholic high school and I wouldn’t wish that experience on my worst enemy. I never liked any of the kids that went to that school, though I do have one very good friend left from those years (so not all are bad ).

Mostly due to my profession, I have met too many filthy rich people and of all those people, I can recount less than a handful that I actually respect.

If you call my refusing to keep up with the Joneses and my desire for my child to grow up with as little emphasis on material wealth as possible "reversed snobbery" then that is perfectly fine with me.

At the same time, keep in mind that I've always said that if I felt that my child didn't receive the quality education I expect him to get, I'd put him in a different (private) school in a heartbeat.
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