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Old 12-14-2006, 07:56 PM
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it's their bodies if they're willing to sell them then who are we to stop them?.
just because its there body doesnt mean they can do anything they want to it! you would try and stop your friends from killing themselves even thought its THEIR life. if one of your friends is having one to many you would ask them to stop!

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what;s the difference between a prostitute and a porn star except one does it infront of cameras? porns perfectly legal and legitimate..
there isnt that much of a difference but there is a lot of giurls out there who have no choice but to sell themselves on the street and then that brings them into conflict with a lot of unsavory worlds lol!

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plus your attitude is just the result of the socialisation we recieve towards prostitution here. abroad it's regulated, legal, no one bats an eyelid about it and it puts many soon to be doctors and lawyers through university.
well would you want ur mother going out and selling herself just so you could go through uni? there no socialisation about it! sex to me is a lot more than just a quick shag in the toliets! but thats just my opinion!!

paying for it just degrades the thing! degrades sex, degards themselves IMO
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:03 PM
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just because its there body doesnt mean they can do anything they want to it! you would try and stop your friends from killing themselves even thought its THEIR life. if one of your friends is having one to many you would ask them to stop!



there isnt that much of a difference but there is a lot of giurls out there who have no choice but to sell themselves on the street and then that brings them into conflict with a lot of unsavory worlds lol!



well would you want ur mother going out and selling herself just so you could go through uni? there no socialisation about it! sex to me is a lot more than just a quick shag in the toliets! but thats just my opinion!!

paying for it just degrades the thing! degrades sex, degards themselves IMO

what kind of fascist are you? why should my or your opinion of what is right and moral for one to do with their body supercede the individuals themselves?

i wouldnt want anyone i know whoring themselves, i wouldn't want anyone i know to kill themselves but ultimately the choice lies with them.

i'm glad you have a hackneyed view of sex but when you get right down to the bare bones of it sex is nothing more than a penis moving in and out of a vagina. you can achieve that without feeling degraded or without any emotional attachment or negative feelings.
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:18 PM
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what kind of fascist are you? why should my or your opinion of what is right and moral for one to do with their body supercede the individuals themselves?

i wouldnt want anyone i know whoring themselves, i wouldn't want anyone i know to kill themselves but ultimately the choice lies with them.

i'm glad you have a hackneyed view of sex but when you get right down to the bare bones of it sex is nothing more than a penis moving in and out of a vagina. you can achieve that without feeling degraded or without any emotional attachment or negative feelings.
im the best kind of fascist! one that doesnt get removed from power! lol

so just because someone wants to do something to their own bodies we can not have any say over it? i just dont accept that! if someone is doing something harmful to themselves then it is societys right to stop them! Society locks people away for casuing harm to themselves! and if thats alo sex means to people why dont they just jeck off in there rooms! watch porno! some people again no choice but to sell themselves! so to be honest thats just like rape! they have no choice other than sleep with sleazy ugly men who cant get any from normal people because they will havew no money! you saying that these people dont need help? people who are addictied to herion or alchol are you saying unless they seek help we should leave them alone? i dont believe in that!
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:26 PM
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im the best kind of fascist! one that doesnt get removed from power! lol

so just because someone wants to do something to their own bodies we can not have any say over it? i just dont accept that! if someone is doing something harmful to themselves then it is societys right to stop them! Society locks people away for casuing harm to themselves! and if thats alo sex means to people why dont they just jeck off in there rooms! watch porno! some people again no choice but to sell themselves! so to be honest thats just like rape! they have no choice other than sleep with sleazy ugly men who cant get any from normal people because they will havew no money! you saying that these people dont need help? people who are addictied to herion or alchol are you saying unless they seek help we should leave them alone? i dont believe in that!
to go back to a previous point. what is the difference between porn and prostitution except one has a camera or two?

to talk about your point of self harm. drinking harms you, you drink by your own admission, what right of mine or societies is it to tell you not to drink if you obviously don't have a problem doing it?

plenty of folk who frequent prostitutes are married so that shoots your theory that it's only folk who can't get any that use them

and even if that is the case, if someone is willing to sell their sex, someone is ugly or socially inept to the point of having no other way of having sex, is that such a bad thing when both parties get what they want?
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:30 PM
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who here would want their daughter growing up 2 sell themselves on the street? i dout anyone here would! because theres just something inside urself that knows its wrong!
Offer is an answer to a demand. Personally, I don't have anything against prostitutes and think they should have some sort of protection. If anyone's to be arrested it should be the client.

As for the topic. It is quite scary. I hope the catch the murderer. But I don't think he would be acting any differently if capital punishment was in use in the UK. Aren't there murderers in the US? The mentality of most murderers is that they will never get arrested anyway.
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:46 PM
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Offer is an answer to a demand. Personally, I don't have anything against prostitutes and think they should have some sort of protection. If anyone's to be arrested it should be the client.

As for the topic. It is quite scary. I hope the catch the murderer. But I don't think he would be acting any differently if capital punishment was in use in the UK. Aren't there murderers in the US? The mentality of most murderers is that they will never get arrested anyway.
well they had capital punishment during the time of Jack the ripper but that didnt really stop him! i dont think they will ever catch to be honest! tho ythey should plant a few officers in the forest and wairt and see if they can spot him!
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:53 PM
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to talk about your point of self harm. drinking harms you, you drink by your own admission, what right of mine or societies is it to tell you not to drink if you obviously don't have a problem doing it??
just because i dont see the harm in it doesnt mean im not doing harm to myself! just because its your body doesnt mean that society cant stop you from killing yourself with drink! if so then its just a waste of life! just because its your body deosnt mean you can do what you want! if your harming yourself then its societys duty to stop you.



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plenty of folk who frequent prostitutes are married so that shoots your theory that it's only folk who can't get any that use them?
no i didnt say that it was just them!! but are you saying because married men like to use prostitutes that they should be legalised for that?

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and even if that is the case, if someone is willing to sell their sex, someone is ugly or socially inept to the point of having no other way of having sex, is that such a bad thing when both parties get what they want?
i dont hink there is a women alive who is willing to sell there body! "ok ill leave school at 16 and ill **** guys for money untill im 40 r so and then ill retire" its not really a thing most women would think about! most r left with no choice but to do so! isnt it societys job to help these women out? instead of telling them look i know you dont want to do this but it isnt anything to do with us!
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:08 PM
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So you really think that society should stop us from harming ourselves? Funny then that smoking and drining is legal, oh and we'd better not drive anymore because there might be accidents, or make knives or anything that can be used as weapons.

If someone wants to sell their body it is their choice, just like most people effectively sell their mind (that is what you are doing with most jobs, right?) What about police? They are at more risk of harm through their job than anyone else, or perhaps fire fighters...should those jobs be stopped?

Do you really think that every prostitute is a drug addict and only does it to fuel that addiction? Ever think that to some people sex isn't so big a deal, and they figure they can make money out of it, so why not? I'm not personally of that mindset, to me sex is something between two people who love each other, that's what I see, but I don't complain about what other people do just because I don't like it.

From the few discussions on this board recently you seem to have a very narrow view of many things and just because you don't like them you think they shouldn't exist. Not everything is that black and white, and to the extent you seem to wish to relinquish control of other peoples lives shows you have no respect for their ability to think for themselves.
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:32 PM
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the simple facts are that i see selling yourself as one of the lowest form of job you can do. its dirty and disgusting and can lead to a lot worse things. im not putting everyone in the same league as drug addictis but the facts are that there is a lot of prostitutes that are drug abusers and it is risking your own health going to one. what about the amount of people who have been robbed by them are even killed by them? police im peded on your life all the time and your just using your own body the way you want but do you hear any complaints? weh you hear a drug lord has been shot dont you go well thats one more drugy of the streets. just because it doesnt effect you doesnt mean its not your problem.

wat about the people who have no choice but to sell their bodys? should we leave them to there fate?

then again who are we to decied what is right and wrong? saying its there body and nothing to do with us is just a cop out! do you want your daughter being a whore? if your answer is no then why not? just because you choose to do something doesnt make it right! its the job of society to guide someone to a decent life! IMO selling yourself isnt!
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Prostitution has been around since time began. It has never been legislated out of existance. As long as there are 2 genders - there will be prostitution. And yes of course it should be legalized. That would give some measure of protection to the women. As it stands (since time began) the men make the money from the practice and the women get punished in terms of legality. When was the last time you saw a male arrested for "visiting" a prostitute. It takes 2 to tango folks. It's always the very people that rant about prostitution (mostly male) that use the service in any case.

I say even out the odds and make it legal. It won't stop all crime associated with it but it will go a long way to helping society all the way around.

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