Q + A with Stay Human - V.2 : The Case for Christ.

Sorry, but it was YOU who missed the point. I never said the bible was 100% right or 100% wrong. If you'd read the posts, you'd see that I said that there are facts in the bible, but most of it is just stories.

How exactly? I don't believe in that one bit. If God really exists, and he's the almighty, all-seeing, supreme being, why dosen't he provide people with a proper guideline instead of a book that is full of stories and mistakes?

You're missing the point. If one doesn't believe in God, he doesn't have to have any arguments or proof. There are NO proof that God exists, therefore there is no need to prove he doesn't.

Duh! Talk about lame arguments.

And besides, "christianty" is NOT the biggest religion in the world. There are many different branches that have hardly anything to do with each other, other than that they're all using bible as their holy book. I wouldn't say the Anglicans and Jehova's Witness have much in common... And if we're talking about active people, the muslims win hands down. There are millions of christians who belong to a church just because they were born to a christian family, but don't necessarily believe in the dogma.

Ice

Well, I have no relationship with Him. I think He doesn't exist. It's an invention of men gaining power over other men - church.
It's THAT connected to each other for me. If there is a higher power I don't like referring to it as the Lord, Him or He or God or anything that sounds like a person.
It's basically nature for me. I'm an atheist through and through.

True.

And who decides what is what? You?

Yes, but it all smells like it's been made up by men for me. Maybe not with the worst intentions, but with some of the worst implementations.

It's not even true, but my answer would be conservatism!

Hmmm so because the bible WHICH HAPPENED TO BE WRITTEN BY MAN says if Christianity sticks around then it is the true religion then it must be?

for ****sake man you really want to look at what your saying before you put it out there cos that is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard as an argument for anything in the Bible being true.

Lets imagine just for a minute that the everything in the Bible is true. it's just mans interpretation or slant on things much like Michael Moore will have his own intentions and ways he wants his documentaries to come across. Does it not cross your mind that none of this could be true and it's just a way of controllign people?

The world was a much smaller place back then and people were less cynical. someone proclaiming to be the son of God today would be locked up before he could say sandals.

I'm not questioning your grip on reality. I've never heard the word like used in such a context, so that's not what came to mind when I read what you wrote.

Becky

The Bible was not written in one specific year or in a single location. The Bible is a collection of writings, and the earliest ones were set down nearly 3500 years ago.

The first five books of the Bible are attributed to Moses and are commonly called the Pentateuch (literally "five scrolls").

Moses lived between 1500 and 1300 BC, though he recounts events in the first eleven chapters of the Bible that occurred long before his time (such as the creation and the flood).

These earliest accounts were handed on from generation to generation in songs, narratives, and poetry.

In those early societies there was no writing as yet and people passed on these oral accounts with great detail and accuracy.

The earliest writing began when symbols were scratched or pressed on clay tablets. The Egyptians refined this technique and developed an early form of writing known as hieroglyphics. The Bible tells us that Moses was "educated in all the learning of the Egyptians", so he would have been familiar with the major writing systems of his time. We also read that God gave Moses "two tablets of the Testimony, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God"(Exodus 31:1. All this leads to the conclusion that the earliest writings in the Bible were set down around 1400 BC.

The writings of the thirty or so other contributors to the Old Testament span a thousand years! They recount the times and messages from Moses' successor, Joshua, to the last of the Old Testament prophets, Malachi, who wrote his little tract around 450 BC.

Then there is a 500-year period when no writings were contributed to the Bible. This is the period between the testaments, when Alexander the Great conquered much of the world and when the Greek language was introduced to the Hebrews. Indeed, they began to use Greek so much that the Hebrew language was replaced by Greek and by another language, Aramaic, which was spoken all over that area of the world at that time.
The New Testament was written during a much shorter period, i.e. during the last half of the first century AD.

It was the coming of the Messiah, Jesus Christ, which ignited the flame that produced the New Testament, as the new faith swept across the Near East and then westward to Greece and on to Rome.

Half of the New Testament books were contributed by one man, the Apostle Paul, in the epistles he sent to groups of new Christians and to his assistants Timothy and Titus.

The Bible closes with a majestic book of visions and dramatic views of the future. It was penned by the aged Apostle John around 95 AD and describes the new heaven and the new earth when God's kingdom will embrace the universe and all rebellion and death will be a thing of the past.

There are many Bible passages that claim to be inspired by God or to be direct quotes from God. The authors believed that what they wrote was under the direction and inspiration of God. Just as importantly, there have been readers from the very beginning who also believed that the writings were inspired and directed by God.




In the end, I believe that it all boils down to faith. Whether or not you believe the writting of the Bible was guided and directed by God and therefore it is His word and the truth is the matter of your faith and no one can take that away from you.

taken from bbc.co.uk (note, i didn't go out and find a christian website to back up my statement, but the beloved bbc.

" Christianity is the world's biggest religion, with more than 1 billion followers worldwide. It is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ who lived in the Holy Land 2,000 years ago. "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religi...ty/index.shtml

When I said 'I just don't like that', I meant I just don't believe in that concept. Your reply made me think you think I'd just believe what I like. Therefore my next reply, but I obviously saw too much in your text.

i think there r more people into baudhdha thenchristians

You missed the point, again. I didn't say christianity isn't the biggest in number of people belonging to a christian religion, I said that there are many that don't practice the religion and there are far too many and too different branches of "christianity" to be put together like people do. Like I said, Anglicans and Jehova's Witness have very little in common. And that's just one example.

AND you've missed all the other argument completely.

Ice