Religion ideas vs the world

Are you serious? Where's your proof God exists?

well it was recorded by 12 people in a book, is that not evidence? lol. its all recored by people the people of the time. can you disprove it? lol

are you trying to take me down the same line as Cuchulainn? lol.

but ill start on the point of you saying Are you serious? what i get from that is that your right and im wrong. is there a point of me giving evidence of god existence?

i would see that as a big arrogant, im sure you dont mean in that way tho.

What? You said "are you saying that the events in the bible didnt happen? were is your prove? you cant make statements without proof to back it up. if you want to argue points back them up are you just become useless in a debate", yet you're doing exactly that. You have no proof that anything in the bible is true, and you can't use the bible as a source for why these things are true because that is lousy circular logic and the bible as a historical text is completely useless as many of the stories detailed in it are in complete contradiction with actual substantiated historical facts.

And it wasn't recorded by 12 people in a book. The New Testament didn't even begin to be written until at least six decades after the time of Jesus by people who never even met Jesus. It continued to be written, edited and altered for centuries after.

Watch this documentary, you will learn a lot.

Who Wrote The Bible (and it's from a religious point of view too!):

well can i ask what in the NT is in a clash with historical fact? and even if these historial facts are made then they to would have been writtian down just like the bible was, what makes one true and the other not. as far as i know the NT is more moral teaching than stating facts. i have not made anything to be true, i havnt said that the events in the bible were true, if i had ill edit it lol

as for the 12 who recored the fact that jesus rose from the dead, it is recored in the 4 bibles, mark, matthew, luke and john. they were present when it happened.

How can you believe a book whose first chapter is all lies? We came about by evolution, not by a magician waving a wand. People used to believe the creation story as true, but since it has been proven wrong it is apparently now meant not to be taken literally but is allogorical, how conveniant

i didnt mention the OT i was talking about the NT which is by far a totally different thing and which im far more interested in. dont tackle me on things i havnt mentioned

History is written with a spin. Do you think any surviving nazi's would look upon WWII the same way as the rest of the world? It is all about perception, all about what you want to tell, and there is much to suggest that the bible was short-listed from many more stories, compiled and re-written endlessly around 300AD by kings, men in power, as a political tool to unite the peoples, get people to become of one religion to stop their bickering amongst each other, to get them in line.

even that is no proof, even if they were the ones that written the bible who isn't saying they were full of bullocks & crap?

but another question would be what teachings in the bible would they want to change anyway? is there teaching that help those in power?

i know what point your trying to make but do you think think there is a massive jump between writting a book about forgiveness and love and the nazi view of WW2 lol.