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Old 06-19-2004, 12:30 AM
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well in some cases it is unequivocal that some prisoners are guilty, but it should be innocent untill proven guilty!!!!
I agree, but talk to Daniel Pearl, Paul Johnson, and Nicholas Berg's families about that.
so you actually think that their families would think it be a good idea to simply imprison anyone without being held accountable for what they do to their prisoners nor as to who they actually are?

I might be misunderstanding you
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well in some cases it is unequivocal that some prisoners are guilty, but it should be innocent untill proven guilty!!!!
I agree, but talk to Daniel Pearl, Paul Johnson, and Nicholas Berg's families about that.
so you actually think that their families would think it be a good idea to simply imprison anyone without being held accountable for what they do to their prisoners nor as to who they actually are?

I might be misunderstanding you
I meant that entire innocent concept. Those men were all innocent and look what was done to them. It is sad on all ends.
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well in some cases it is unequivocal that some prisoners are guilty, but it should be innocent untill proven guilty!!!!
I agree, but talk to Daniel Pearl, Paul Johnson, and Nicholas Berg's families about that.
so you actually think that their families would think it be a good idea to simply imprison anyone without being held accountable for what they do to their prisoners nor as to who they actually are?

I might be misunderstanding you
I meant that entire innocent concept. Those men were all innocent and look what was done to them. It is sad on all ends.
yes and that is why WE should not be acting like them. Otherwise we are no better
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well in some cases it is unequivocal that some prisoners are guilty, but it should be innocent untill proven guilty!!!!
I agree, but talk to Daniel Pearl, Paul Johnson, and Nicholas Berg's families about that.
so you actually think that their families would think it be a good idea to simply imprison anyone without being held accountable for what they do to their prisoners nor as to who they actually are?

I might be misunderstanding you
I meant that entire innocent concept. Those men were all innocent and look what was done to them. It is sad on all ends.
yes and that is why WE should not be acting like them. Otherwise we are no better
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well in some cases it is unequivocal that some prisoners are guilty, but it should be innocent untill proven guilty!!!!
I agree, but talk to Daniel Pearl, Paul Johnson, and Nicholas Berg's families about that.
so you actually think that their families would think it be a good idea to simply imprison anyone without being held accountable for what they do to their prisoners nor as to who they actually are?

I might be misunderstanding you
I meant that entire innocent concept. Those men were all innocent and look what was done to them. It is sad on all ends.
yes and that is why WE should not be acting like them. Otherwise we are no better
This is true, but I just find it odd that more people are in an uproar over these prison camps than the beheadings and such. I would say that both events are awful, but why don't you see protests about the latter.
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Old 06-19-2004, 02:46 AM
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well in some cases it is unequivocal that some prisoners are guilty, but it should be innocent untill proven guilty!!!!
I agree, but talk to Daniel Pearl, Paul Johnson, and Nicholas Berg's families about that.
so you actually think that their families would think it be a good idea to simply imprison anyone without being held accountable for what they do to their prisoners nor as to who they actually are?

I might be misunderstanding you
I meant that entire innocent concept. Those men were all innocent and look what was done to them. It is sad on all ends.
yes and that is why WE should not be acting like them. Otherwise we are no better
This is true, but I just find it odd that more people are in an uproar over these prison camps than the beheadings and such. I would say that both events are awful, but why don't you see protests about the latter.
I cannot even wrap my brain around the concept that people are doing this.

Did WE BEHEAD anyone??
I am mad as hell right now over the days events. A man, an American CIVILIAN was beheaded today, and you people are more concerned over the prison camps??? PLEASE help me understand how this is possible!

We need to do something about this NOW. This country needs to get bigger balls and make it known we will not stand for this for one more minute.

BTW, I heard they killed the a$$hole that beheaded Paul Johnson. Too bad they didn't kill him first!
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I genuinely don't see the problem with playign dirty.

It's not fair if there's any innocent people caught up in it but if you're fighting an animal, you've got to act like one
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Did WE BEHEAD anyone??
I am mad as hell right now over the days events. A man, an American CIVILIAN was beheaded today, and you people are more concerned over the prison camps??? PLEASE help me understand how this is possible!
Ah, Donna. Stick around Jovitalk for awhile longer and you'll see that some people here see nothing wrong with an American being killed. It's all in self defense, you know. The poor misunderstood Muslims are, after all, only defending themselves from American civilians.
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Did WE BEHEAD anyone??
I am mad as hell right now over the days events. A man, an American CIVILIAN was beheaded today, and you people are more concerned over the prison camps??? PLEASE help me understand how this is possible!
Ah, Donna. Stick around Jovitalk for awhile longer and you'll see that some people here see nothing wrong with an American being killed. It's all in self defense, you know. The poor misunderstood Muslims are, after all, only defending themselves from American civilians.
Yeah I am starting to see how some around here think.
Very, very sad. I wonder how they would feel if it was a civilian from their own country who was murdered in cold blood for no reason.

You know I just heard something on a news show.
We need to get tougher on these people. We need to send this message loud and clear. To kill an American civilian, any civilian for that matter, for no reason is to sign your own death warrant. The consequences need to be swift and severe.
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To kill an American civilian, any civilian for that matter, for no reason is to sign your own death warrant. The consequences need to be swift and severe.
and that is exactly the mindset that killed 3000 people on 9/11.

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