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Old 12-31-2006, 04:34 AM
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I would have liked to piss in his face during this procedure of the century.
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i cant bring myself to watch that video of his hanging, i think its really disturbing. gives me shudders.
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EDIT BY KEV. WATCH THE VIDEO WITH CAUTION. CONTAINS GRAPHIC IMAGES
EDIT : [url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7532034279766935521

interesting video
yvonne you copy, i sent you the video
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I don't think that by condeming death penalty I'm defending this evil man in any way, but I certainly won't sigh with relief at this news. Besides, this is the perfect excuse for some more slaughter in an already messed-up place.

Oh, and the video and the corpse images are simply creepy. I haven't seen the video or the images, and I doubt I will, unless by accident because it's on some newspaper cover or something. It's gruesome, really. I know they have to show that he's actually dead and all that, but people are watching it too 'calmly' and even 'happily'
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but people are watching it too 'calmly' and even 'happily'
I know what you mean and the footage of people over here having parties in honor of his death is a bit - offputting?

However, I also realize that my reaction is completely irrelevant compared to that of families who have been traumatized, victamized and destroyed by that man. I can't say how I would feel if my little brother was tortured and killed by this man and I certainly will not judge anyone who finds a certain enjoyment in the video footage. I am just glad I have no reason to feel the same way.
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i cant watch it .Its one thing to watch a horror film but something completely different to watch this sort of thing
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lol because he went in2 iraq without a just reason and killed thousands of pople while mistreating prisoners of war
No, because he represent an instution who is responsible for death wich even can't be counted (hitler, saddam's and the us's can, imagine). Enough and in such ways that it will never be outdated....
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Generally as a rule I'm not in favour of the death penalty but this son-of-a-bitch got exactly what he deserved. For once he got to feel the terror of knowing you're about to die like so many innocent people felt as a result of him.

I am certainly no fan of Bush and I certainly think he and Blair should be obliged to resign as a result of what has taken place in Iraq but to say Bush is no different to Saddam is ridiculous. Bush may be directly and/or indirectly responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people but you have to take into account intentionality when viewing his crimes, if you want to call them that. The difference between Saddam and Bush is that Saddam knowingly, willfully and intentionally targeted and murdered hundreds of thousands of innocents. His goal was always to maximise casulties. Bush (America and the UK) on the other hand always attempt to cause as little collateral damage as possible. Given a hypothetical scenario where a magic bomb existed that only disabled or killed responsible enemy combatants without any collateral damage to innocent persons, or property, there can be no doubt that they would gladly use these bombs. The same most certainly can not be said for Saddam (or Bin Laden or the likes). I'm not trying to defend Bush for what he is responsible for, he should be held accountable for what has happened in Iraq but it's just ridiculous to equate him with the likes of Saddam.
Talk about believing the propoganda....

I don't believe you can label Bin Laden & Saddam together. Whilst not agreeing with anything that Saddam did, the bottom line is less people died on a daily basis during Saddam. He prevented civil war through instilling fear.

Now, we have an Iraq without that fear but with now terror & more & more people dying each day.

If Bush had gone in there with good intentions, he would have realised this would have happened & made proper provisions to deal with this.
Ultimately Bush went in there with bad intentions & the place has gone to hell as a result.

Saddam being executed will at best not make a difference to the current plight.
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Saddam being executed will at best not make a difference to the current plight.
I couldn't agree more. It's like pandora's box. Without the control and fear of Saddam - things have been let out of the box that are not going to go back in. If Bush had any forsight (or had read any history) he should have known that if you destroy a government - you must have another plan in mind. Safeguards should have been in place before invading.

The saying " Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it" applies to Bush.

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Talk about believing the propoganda....
What?

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I don't believe you can label Bin Laden & Saddam together. Whilst not agreeing with anything that Saddam did, the bottom line is less people died on a daily basis during Saddam. He prevented civil war through instilling fear.
Oh well gee, good on him then. I don't why anybody would ever have had anything but reverance for him. You can label them together because they are (were) both hideously evil men who constantly seek (sought) to opress those who do not agree with their ideology through terror and fear. Their way of doing this is to maximize casualties. There was no civil war in Afghanistan when it was run by the Taliban. Maybe we should let the Taliban rule the entire world and there'd be no wars at all.

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Now, we have an Iraq without that fear but with now terror & more & more people dying each day.
Of course, and Bush and Blair must take responsibility for that. I certainly wasn't suggesting that Iraq in it's current state is better then under Saddam's rule, that's completely academic to the question of whether or not Saddam should have been removed or whether Bush is as "evil" as Saddam. I've already explained why I think the later is ridiculous, even if Bush is directly or indirectly responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people. I also believe in theory it was correct to remove Saddam but in practice it's been an unmitigated disaster.

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If Bush had gone in there with good intentions, he would have realised this would have happened & made proper provisions to deal with this.
Ultimately Bush went in there with bad intentions & the place has gone to hell as a result.
Whether Bush had good or bad intentions really wouldn't have mattered because the man, and his closest staff, don't have a brain between them all. Bush publicly said he went into Iraq because God told him to. The man belongs in a mental institution with all the other murders who killed because God told them to.

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Saddam being executed will at best not make a difference to the current plight.
I couldn't agree more. I can only see it heighten the violence by increasing the void and hatred between the Sunni's and Shiite's.
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