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Old 01-05-2007, 10:48 PM
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but lets not get away from the topic!!

saddam should not have been executed simple as IMO
saddam didn't deserve to live, but I actually agree with you there. If Saddam is executed, a lot more should've been or be excecuted...Imagine future regime's, think of African regime's wich are just as or more worse then Saddam's. But you know what? There is no oil in Africa......
The end is gone after this execution, wich wasn't Iraq's decision, but a US decision...

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saddam didn't deserve to live, but I actually agree with you there. If Saddam is executed, a lot more should've been or be excecuted...Imagine future regime's, think of African regime's wich are just as or more worse then Saddam's. But you know what? There is no oil in Africa......
The end is gone after this execution, wich wasn't Iraq's decision, but a US decision...
There's loads of oil in Africa. There's just no good infrastructure to get it into the U.S.
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There's loads of oil in Africa. There's just no good infrastructure to get it into the U.S.
there is not enough to supply the US, not only due to infrastructure. If that was the case, then the US (and other countries) would've invested ages ago in infrastructure....

Not to forget, there is more genocide going on in Africa then even in Iraq, but goes unpunished...

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saddam dying was just an easy way out for him! if he had been allowed to live in prison for the rest of his life that would have been a lot more punishment! also the cort he was in was wrong and it should have been the biritsh and americans controlling the court not the iraqs.

For bush it is all about popularity and saving face. if he thought hed gain popularity by going into africa and topling governments there then he would be there in a shot but it wouldnt. they arnt well known enough. also most them governments are payingn the U.S. money anyway.

jus hope that someone gets into power in the U.S who actually has brains. all the worlds problems can be sloved by the G8 such as stravation and the like b them countrys like being rich!
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saddam dying was just an easy way out for him! if he had been allowed to live in prison for the rest of his life that would have been a lot more punishment! also the cort he was in was wrong and it should have been the biritsh and americans controlling the court not the iraqs.

For bush it is all about popularity and saving face. if he thought hed gain popularity by going into africa and topling governments there then he would be there in a shot but it wouldnt. they arnt well known enough. also most them governments are payingn the U.S. money anyway.

jus hope that someone gets into power in the U.S who actually has brains. all the worlds problems can be sloved by the G8 such as stravation and the like b them countrys like being rich!


1. why should an iraqi dictator who perpetrated crimes against the iraqi people, contrary to iraqi law, being held in an iraqi jail and tried under iraqi law in an iraqi court be under the control of the US or UK?

2. i'd like to know where the "most of the african governments are paying the US money anyways" idea from.

3. although they could go a long way to helping. the g8 can not and never will solve all the worlds problems and considering the time money and effort they do put into helping developing countries whereas they could just not waste the money at all suggests that they're not totally hell bent on keeping their own money at the expense of others.
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1. why should an iraqi dictator who perpetrated crimes against the iraqi people, contrary to iraqi law, being held in an iraqi jail and tried under iraqi law in an iraqi court be under the control of the US or UK?

2. i'd like to know where the "most of the african governments are paying the US money anyways" idea from.

3. although they could go a long way to helping. the g8 can not and never will solve all the worlds problems and considering the time money and effort they do put into helping developing countries whereas they could just not waste the money at all suggests that they're not totally hell bent on keeping their own money at the expense of others.
1. because iraq are a county under ocupation by forigen countrys, he was the prisoner of america and it was them that wanted him got. the iraq government were not fit to take on that trail and several UN members have already stated that the trail was not fair under international law. death was an easy way out for him. Iraq is not just a satalight state controlled by america. letting him be put to death isnt really the way forward for a new country! IMO

2. a lot of nthem african nations have massive depts owed to amercia and as long as america is getting that im sure they are not to concerned what happenes.

3. yes your right but most of them counrtys arnt prepared to go a long way to help africa! its all about money and they like having plenty of it!
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1. because iraq are a county under ocupation by forigen countrys, he was the prisoner of america and it was them that wanted him got. the iraq government were not fit to take on that trail and several UN members have already stated that the trail was not fair under international law. death was an easy way out for him. Iraq is not just a satalight state controlled by america. letting him be put to death isnt really the way forward for a new country! IMO

2. a lot of nthem african nations have massive depts owed to amercia and as long as america is getting that im sure they are not to concerned what happenes.

3. yes your right but most of them counrtys arnt prepared to go a long way to help africa! its all about money and they like having plenty of it!
"it was them that wanted him got"
you're actually training to be a teacher with grammar like that?

1. you still don't actually answer anything there. iraq has an interim government, it has it's own police force, legislature etc... even though america still has it's hand on the reigns, the biggest contribution the US and UK are making in Iraq are peacekeeping and peacebuilding duties. you can;t go into a country and say you want to free it's people and give democracy and then say: but we still want to control saddams trial and this and that and that.

2. the US (along with many other nations) would probably be better off just invading said african countries and taking back the money that's owed to them but that's not how world politics and international relations work and to think the only reason the US doesn't invade african countries with despots is because of tiny debt repayments is just being shortsighted.

3. i see you're subscribing to the left wing idea of how and why the g8 operate as they do instead of being a little more realistic.
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"it was them that wanted him got"
you're actually training to be a teacher with grammar like that?

1. you still don't actually answer anything there. iraq has an interim government, it has it's own police force, legislature etc... even though america still has it's hand on the reigns, the biggest contribution the US and UK are making in Iraq are peacekeeping and peacebuilding duties. you can;t go into a country and say you want to free it's people and give democracy and then say: but we still want to control saddams trial and this and that and that.

2. the US (along with many other nations) would probably be better off just invading said african countries and taking back the money that's owed to them but that's not how world politics and international relations work and to think the only reason the US doesn't invade african countries with despots is because of tiny debt repayments is just being shortsighted.

3. i see you're subscribing to the left wing idea of how and why the g8 operate as they do instead of being a little more realistic.


1. no they cant do that but if they invaded iraq and are trying to make the county better then they have made the trial meet international standerds which it didnt even come close to.

2. or they could just cancel the dept the poor countries owed them! thats what bob geldof wanted! and its not like they need the money coming in! and in know thats not the only reason the U.S doesnt invade africa but if they didnt have ajust reason fro iraq then whats to stop them doing it in africa.

3. i mite be but is it fair that them countrys control must of the worlds wealth wen bigger countrys go straving?
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1. no they cant do that but if they invaded iraq and are trying to make the county better then they have made the trial meet international standerds which it didnt even come close to.

2. or they could just cancel the dept the poor countries owed them! thats what bob geldof wanted! and its not like they need the money coming in! and in know thats not the only reason the U.S doesnt invade africa but if they didnt have ajust reason fro iraq then whats to stop them doing it in africa.

3. i mite be but is it fair that them countrys control must of the worlds wealth wen bigger countrys go straving?

1. the trial was a farce. i doubt it would have turned out any other way whether it was the us, uk, iraq, un or judge judy that was running the show.

2. bob geldoff is an arse and him shouting, drop the debt is not going to solve anything. he actually does the cause a dis-service by being so marginalised and uncooth. he did a PA for a company my sister worked for a few years ago. he'd to turn up for half an hour and do a little speech. he refused to touch any of the catering her company had put on and demanded they paid his own catering company to come in and feed him and his entourage FOR HALF AN HOURS WORK. quite the humanitarian worried about world hunger wouldn't you say?

3rd world countries are not starving just because they are payign back debts, most of them aren't even paying anything back they're in such dire straits so dropping it would no achieve much at all. it'd be like throwing bucket of water at a forest fire.

3. the size of countries has nothing at all to do with how wealthy they are and that's just how the world works. britain is tiny compared to most countries but we've managed to prosper because we're privvy to geographical advantages that other parts of the world are not. that's not britains fault, it's not america's fault. if you're going to blame anyone blame the god you're such a proponent of for landing billions of people on a part of the globe that you can't grow food on or keep livestock.
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if you're going to blame anyone blame the god you're such a proponent of for landing billions of people on a part of the globe that you can't grow food on or keep livestock.
but God doesnt exist its their own ****ing fault they are on that part of globe. and since it it doesnt really affect us why should we care!

then there is the small fact that the rest fo the world has destroyed africa for the better part of 200 years, taking its oil, food, people. and then allow frica is 3 times the size of europe it doesnt even have half as much money as them thats all controlled by the G8.

Bob Geldof my be ab arse but hes saved thosands more peiople that Bush ever will!
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