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Old 11-05-2006, 11:40 PM
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What if they didn't have access to TV and books and things to do? If they had cold, damp cells and horrible food? Would that be better? That is what I think they should have. If it happened to me, someone I loved getting hurt or killed, I would rather know the culprit was sat rotting away with nothing to do their whole life.
But the difference is even if they are rotting away they are still living while your loved one is not. And so many people who kill try to get away with it and to even kill someone at all one must be so cold blooded. I don't think sociopaths are feeling guilty sitting there in prison thinking about what they did. I think back to the Laci Peterson case. Her mom wanted the DP for Scott and they got it but he will probably die of old age there are so many inmates on Death Row. Even if someone is in a cold damp cell they still get to be LIVING, they still get to have contact with their families while the members of the families of those that they have killed can only visit a grave.

The thing about prisons though is that there are laws where they must provide them with food, blankets, etc. Even when convicts go to court or go to funerals or dr's visits they are given money to get food from McDonalds or other fast food places. I just think convicted criminals have it way too easy. There is no just punishment for taking another life except to give them exactly what they did to someone else. I respect others thoughts but this is just my opinion and one i feel strongly about...
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Old 11-05-2006, 11:42 PM
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I have read many statements by victims' relatives where they say they don't want other people, other families to go through what they ahve done, regardless of the pain they have caused them.

I guess you can't say unless you're in that situation, but I'm quite certain I wouldn't want someone else to die whatever they had done to me. Go to jail, yes. But whatever you do to them, you're not getting your loved one back.
I myself think that if the prisoner had a concious it would be worse to sit in prison for life and have nothing but years and years to think of what they did and to feel that guilt. But so many of them don't care. Prisons are full of people who get out on parole and then wind up committing another crime and then getting back into the system..

I know that whatever you do you are not getting your loved one back and that is the saddest thing to deal with of all.
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Even when convicts go to court or go to funerals or dr's visits they are given money to get food from McDonalds or other fast food places.
That's a severe enough punishment don't you think?


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Old 11-06-2006, 12:22 AM
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That's a severe enough punishment don't you think?
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It just bothers me that they eve get privleges like choosing to eat at McD's or Wendys or wherever where they want to get their food from. They are in prison, all choices and freedom went out the window when you went in they should get frieken bread and water...
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Sure they do but that doesn't mean the US people and the Iraqi people have the same conception of death and death penalty, that's what I meant.


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in this case the only different conception would be whether the execution should be done by hanging or injection.
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Also, looking at the news, the Sunni's were celebrating & the Shia's demonstrating. It's not going to help relieve any of the tensions. I don't see what was wrong in putting him in a cell & throwing away the key.
saddam's a sunni
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:18 AM
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I'd want that to die yes, probably would want to kill him/her myself, but that doesn't make it the right thing to do. You can't rule justice in a fair way if your judgement is based on your emotions.
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I agree some prisoners (it's far frombeing the case in all prisons) get to much "privileges" to my taste too, I still wouldn't want to be in their shoes, and I don't believe these "privileges" actually make their lives any easier
again i agree with you. i think "privileges" should be determined on conviction, depending on the crime. i believe that this happens to a certain degree but there is not enough discrimination.




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Therefore the DP sentence is useless...
The Death penalty is a useless tool because it is no deterrant.
If it was and you could make a logical case for it then maybe i could be convinced but imo its just a vengeful thing to do. im sure id still oppose it , either way the facts speak for themselves.

"A September 2000 New York Times survey found that during the last 20 years, the homicide rate in states with the death penalty has been 48 to 101 percent higher than in states without the death penalty.

FBI data showed that 10 of the 12 states without capital punishment have homicide rates below the national average. " (Amnesty USA)





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[QUOTE=Adrian; What's happened to him is unjust, but he deserves it. Boy, does that sound like an oxymoron.

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UNJUST?! Nothing you could do to this man would be unjust. The crazy SOB got a god damn trial by his people (which, by the way, he mocked and spat upon every day he attended which would have gotten any other person thrown out of court and then convicted) after all that he did and they convicted him and you are saying he is being treated unjustly? If anything he was given preferential treatment because he deserves to expereience all the real tortures that he has forced upon his people.

I am utterly baffled by the lengths people will go to to deemed 'compassionate'...

I will save my compassion for the billions of people in this world with at least a single shred of humanity in their souls.

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in this case the only different conception would be whether the execution should be done by hanging or injection.
I mean the two civilizations, if you'll agree to call them that, may have two different ways of considering Death, of considering Life and it's value etc...

Having our own ideology and being ignorant of the other one would make any judgement irrelevant.


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I guess i seem to be the minority so far. I am for the DP. If you had someone you loved who was killed/raped/ tortured etc. wouldn't you want them to pay for what they did? I'm sorry but serial killers don't sit their in prison feeling guilty for what they did. Serving a life sentence doesn't bother them. Prisoners often have it way too easy. They get a lot of special privleges that i know i don't agree with at all. Yeay it must suck to sit there in jail but did you know that they can get tv's for their cells, choose their meals, are able to have cigarettes, they even are given candy on Christmas! They also get paid to work in prison as well. As for the DP in certain states (like CA) there are so many people waiting there on Death Row they usually wind up dying of old age anyway.
I think you are absolutly right .These sort of people think totaly different to us , they have no compassion for human life .person to them is not how we see it . Theres no real right or wrong in their heads .You could almost say that they are not human. They dont feel guilt at all. they are manipulative cold blooded killers and shouldnt be given the same rights as others .I can see how may think this is wrong in killing Saddam and goes against their own beliefs but your looking at it with the point of veiw that they will be killing a normal person which of course would be wrong .However he is no ordinary person is he? hes a freak of nature . As for letting him stay in jial for the rest of his life.Hes never going to sit there and think oh dear i did wrong wasnt i bad.Of course not he will see it as unjust and will plot for his freedom.Just imagine if he got out again?? .No the right thing to do is to hang him , put an end to it now .
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